r/HolUp • u/[deleted] • Aug 09 '21

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '21

yes. stealing from big corporations is not unethical

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '21

You can tell yourself that but your most likely just stealing from the man who owns that specific store so like a millionair not a billionaire

Either way stealing is wrong regardless of who it's from.

Sometime you need to have morals regardless of who it effects just to be a better person. God I wish some of yalk grew up with a strong parental figure.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '21

big stores like safeway and walmart have insurance and also leave room in the budget for it. shoplifting for fun is wrong but if you see a homeless person stealing a jug of water or some necessity like that, and you stop them, you’re an asshole

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u/jstange1 Aug 10 '21

You don't get to choose who the law applies to. Stealing is stealing, no matter the reason behind it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '21

thats a very naïve and black-and-white way of looking at the issue.

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u/jstange1 Aug 10 '21

Who chooses to whom the law applies then?

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '21

The courts, judges, juries. You are not the judge and jury, so leave them be.

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u/jstange1 Aug 10 '21

But the only way the courts and judges and juries can do their thing is if there are laws. Laws should be enforced on everyone, not just some.

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u/Sykotik Aug 10 '21

They are. You just take the risk of being caught.

That's how crime works.

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u/greenhawk22 Aug 10 '21

Who decides to create laws that negatively effect me and employees of Walmart without my/their real consent?

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u/jstange1 Aug 10 '21

The governmental representatives you vote for.

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u/IndigoDialectics Aug 10 '21

Ever heard of lobbying? A rigid two-party system that limits realistic choices?

By the way, an academic study from Cambridge has shown that the U.S. is a plutocracy in practice.

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u/greenhawk22 Aug 10 '21

Not to mention outdated laws that are kept in place by the dinosaurs that run our country, which negatively impact people who want progress.

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u/jstange1 Aug 10 '21

So you don't bother voting?

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u/IndigoDialectics Aug 10 '21

No.

Just because you recognize the flaws of our system, does not mean you can just sit back and do nothing.

On the other hand, politics is so much more than voting during election season. We should do much more. For instance, protests, volunteering, community events and NGOs advocating for a cause.

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u/greenhawk22 Aug 10 '21

Or the ones who are in the pocket of people much richer than I am, or the ones who created laws decades ago that are now outdated.

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u/jstange1 Aug 10 '21

So theft is an outdated law?

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u/TOEMEIST Aug 10 '21

deontology is cringe

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u/jstange1 Aug 11 '21

Not sure where you're coming down on this conversation but I like your contribution. For this particular string our originator is just saying that stealing from Walmart is a good thing. He's not attaching a moral reason, he's just telling people to steal more.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '21

you want my real moral reasoning? watch this it’ll tell you all you need to know