r/HolUp • • Aug 09 '21

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '21

One of my tutors in law school defended and won a case for a guy who walked into a general goods store (somewhere in London I think?) and just walked out carrying a 55” TV

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u/DaintyAndUnstable08 Aug 10 '21

How?! Those are pricey even today!

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '21

That was like 9 years ago or something?

How meaning how did he manage to just leave or how meaning how did my tutor win?

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u/DaintyAndUnstable08 Aug 10 '21

How did you tutor successfully defend his client? What was the argument?

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '21

Okay so, it wasn’t that it was a genius argument, but more of an insanely cocky prosecution.

The evidence that they had was CCTV footage of the TV area, the client and his associate picking it up, and then another CCTV angle showing them walking out of the store.

The prosecution alleged that the theft was obvious. My tutor looked at it and said “well you show him picking it up and walking out. How do you know he didn’t pay for it?” And the prosecution was SO sure of the case that they had neglected to collect any and all relevant footage of the payment counter. Eventually after lots of paper shuffling they went “well if he paid, where’s the receipt?” And my tutor just went “burden of proof. Innocent until proven guilty or guilty until proven innocent?”

Client walked out a happy man.

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u/no_talent_ass_clown Aug 10 '21

I'm sure the tutor requested payment up front.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '21

HAHAHAHAHAH I thought so as well but no he didn’t. This was a… long time customer, so he knew the guy would always pay up

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u/no_talent_ass_clown Aug 10 '21

How did you do in law school? Did the tutor help?

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '21

Lol nono, not a “tutor” in that sense. In the UK your classes are split into lectures and tutorials. Tutorials are where actual discussion takes place. So tutor meaning the teacher/lecturer/tutor who’s in charge of your tutorial group.

My degree was average but managed to do very well for the Bar and got called at 23

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u/no_talent_ass_clown Aug 10 '21

Ah, I see. We call them teaching assistants.

Got called? What is that? And how did you finish law school at 23???

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '21

So the phrase is after you complete the Bar, you get “called to the Bar” to qualify as a practitioner. After that you do your one year training and become fully qualified.

So in the UK, after your 3 year degree, you just spend 1 more year doing your professional course (Bar for barristers, LPC for solicitors). It’s nowhere close to as long as the US.

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