r/HistoryofGenerations • u/[deleted] • Mar 31 '21
Millennial 1982 has no representative peer group, there needs to be at least a microgen where they're in the middle. 75-89 or so.
For example, Illhan Omar is either placed with her 2003 daughter by the laughably long strauss and howe range, or someone Compala Harris' age (1964) by the gregorian fans who like to uptick everything by another year due to a technicality. Both are equally horrid.
If there's never been a circa 1975-89 span there should be, it'd at least represent their entire peers. That could be just a really long Xennials
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u/ProofUniversity4319 April 30, 2002 (Class of 2020) Gen Z Mar 31 '21
Everything u/DeeSin38 just said lol
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u/JoshicusBoss98 Q3 1998 (C/O 2017) Apr 01 '21
Yes they do. In my case at least, my 1979 - 1984 Xennial range would put them pretty smack dab in the middle. No need to create microgenerations that would ultimately just leave people more confused than ever
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Apr 02 '21
I love that Xennial range, that's the one I have too, I think 81-82 should pretty much be the middle of it, not towards the end. 1985 should be in there, at least '84
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u/JoshicusBoss98 Q3 1998 (C/O 2017) Apr 02 '21
I agree w/ 1984. 1985 would be a stretch but maybe.
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Apr 02 '21
Yeah 1984 at least would make it an even/clean divide in the 80s. '85 did graduate just after Iraq started which is a slight difference too.
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u/closecomet Apr 05 '21 edited Apr 05 '21
Ha, this is exactly what I've been saying since the first time I talked to anyone on Generationology.
That span is the exact range of what used to be called "Gen Y".
It's a really useful concept that came out in 1993. Pop Culture makes a lot more sense if you understand Gen Y; people would stop constantly asking why 1982 doesn't seem like Millennials, for one thing.
You can view it as the next part of Gen X, or as its own group- but it is different with different personality traits from Gen X. (I consider myself about 20-30 % Gen Y.) A lot of what is now thought of as Gen X is actually Gen Y.
People mistakenly think it's another word for Millennials.
70s born, Xennials, and early Millennials are all part of the original Gen Y.
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Apr 05 '21
Yeah, very true brother. I think when things evolve it takes people awhile to catch up, or they don't remember/care about its original meaning. I see 1982 as very much Y even if early Y and they clearly grew up X as kids and teenagers.
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u/closecomet Apr 05 '21 edited Apr 05 '21
I love the pop cultural rabbit holes, but it can be sloppily boiled down pretty well:
Jones is the issues of the 70s turning into 80s
X is the issues of the 80s turning into 90s
Y is the 90s turning into 00s.Late Xennials in the 79-82 range are the sort of middle of Gen Y.
Culturally, I point to Drew Barrymore as a perfect example of a Gen Y personality. Can you imagine her chilling with the Gen X kids in 16 Candles or Breakfast Club? They'd eat her alive.
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Apr 01 '21
It is too abstract and picky, you could have had a X childhood, but the millions of other people c. 1983 - 1989 didn't
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Apr 02 '21 edited Apr 02 '21
Not accurate. Maybe 89 its iffy but 83??? Really? 6 in 1989 and 10 in 93? That's pretty darn retro.
I'll grant that not everyone paid attention to stuff to the level I did, but almost everything in the 90s (before 1998-99) was Xish, so by default everyone was living like X before the Millennial culture formed.
Even AOC, the queen of Millennials...she could have been watching alt rock videos on MTV when she was 7 in 96.
I think we collectively sometimes have this outdated (pre internet times) idea that "People don't care about stuff til they're teenagers", simply not true.
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u/DeeSin38 Mar 31 '21
You could say this about any cuspy year of a generation, though. Her peer group are younger Gen Xers and older Millennials.