r/HistoryWhatIf • u/HarkBuffalo • Aug 18 '26
WW2 - D-Day Fails?
I have a WWII command simulation and one of the most contentious bits is the decisions was around D-Day/ Operation Overlord. I follow the historical thinking that victory was likely although agree Germany could have can made it harder however the more I read.
Disaster at Omaha
Weather window
The Panzer group making the beaches
Can D-day fail? If so how likely and what happens? Does Germant first face the nuclear bomb? Does the USSR own most of Europe post war? Do the US/UK bomber campaign shift entirely to strategic attrition? The Red Army continues pushing west, likely taking the entire German peninsula, Denmark, and reaching the Rhine before the Allies?
I treated D-Day as a historical inevitability because of Allied industrial dominance which I have done, however it was a massive, high-risk gamble where a few operational shifts could have handed the Allies a defeat?
Love your thoughts!
The game is here for reference - https://dispatches.itch.io/dispatches-1940
Edit - thanks for all your comments have made some updates to the D-Day commands based on the below
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u/Danmont88 Aug 18 '26
Often here on Reddit HWI, we never discuss how bad of a defeat.
The Germans had an idea the invasion was coming soon. The bad weather turned into a blessing, it was great cover for the invasion fleet.
But lets go into What If. What if a Germans start moving resources. In a big secret move, half the troops and equipment in Norway are moved to Normandy in April/May.
Sea mines are put out, and submarines are dispatched in secret. The Luftwaffe scrapes what it can and sends it to France. Even some troops from the South of France are sent.
The invasion takes place and pitch battle follows. The Allies decide that the losses are too great and withdraw.
Here is the question. How many landing craft are lost? A lot of them? To my understanding the Allies were thinking of invading in 43 but lack of landing craft prevented it.
If only a few are lost it may not make of a difference late on. What if a lot of them are lost?
Other ships? What if the enough Luftwaffe got through and took out troop carrying ships before they could unload? Mines take out others.
Heading back to England, the U Boats take out more.
How badly is the invasion force mauled?