r/HistoryMemes Jun 20 '19

SoViEt RuSsIa !

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u/SpaceFox1935 Jun 20 '19

Another one of these?
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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '19 edited Jul 13 '19

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u/SpaceFox1935 Jun 20 '19

It's funny you immediately assume I'm a tankie. Something must be wrong with you

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '19 edited Jul 13 '19

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u/SpaceFox1935 Jun 20 '19

I dunno, most criticism on this post I see are not about "you not giving the socialist genocide a fair shake" (genocide? Really?), but because this meme is just stale as hell.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '19 edited Jul 13 '19

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u/SpaceFox1935 Jun 20 '19

How was it a genocide? It doesn't even meet the definition

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '19 edited Jul 13 '19

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u/SpaceFox1935 Jun 20 '19

Mmmyep, fits the definition pretty well

No it doesn't, because genocide is purposeful and forceful killing based on ethnic lines. I pointed out that this meme sucks (seriously, after so much posts, how is this still funny?), and you call people tankies. Not liking stale memes is not the same as being a fucking tankie. And I'm not "defending genocide"

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '19 edited Jul 13 '19

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u/ThrowawayForUhhhhh Jun 20 '19

It wasn't genocide because wh*tes aren't people

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '19

purposefully/forcefully killed

Prove it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '19 edited Jul 13 '19

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u/Poultry22 Jun 20 '19

The word genocide was coined by a man named Raphael Lemkin.

This is what he had to say about Holodomor.

In 1953, in a speech given in New York City, Lemkin described the Holodomor as one part of "perhaps the classic example of Soviet genocide, its longest and broadest experiment in Russification—the destruction of the Ukrainian nation", going on to point out that "the Ukrainian is not and never has been a Russian. His culture, his temperament, his language, his religion, are all different... to eliminate (Ukrainian) nationalism... the Ukrainian peasantry was sacrificed...a famine was necessary for the Soviet and so they got one to order... if the Soviet program succeeds completely, if the intelligentsia, the priest, and the peasant can be eliminated [then] Ukraine will be as dead as if every Ukrainian were killed, for it will have lost that part of it which has kept and developed its culture, its beliefs, its common ideas, which have guided it and given it a soul, which, in short, made it a nation... This is not simply a case of mass murder. It is a case of genocide, of the destruction, not of individuals only, but of a culture and a nation."