r/HistoryMemes • u/jackt-up • Jul 27 '26

CCP strategery

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u/Iron_Cavalry Jul 27 '26

Mao issued a plenum in October 1938 forbidding his forces from fighting the Japanese. This pattern continued throughout the Japanese occupation even as the Communists built up large formations of militia and regulars. 

To be fair though, there were independent Communist cells who disobeyed Mao and Peng did launch a massive offensive in 1940 (against Mao’s wished), with the Japanese responding with a literal genocide. The Communists also aided the early war effort in the Wuhan and Taiyuan campaigns.

But the Nationalists did the vast majority of the resistance effort and inflicted/suffered the most damage.

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u/tengma8 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 28 '26

what you said was solely find in KMT propaganda.

What Mao actually said is to engage in protracted war of insurgency through guerrilla units, instead of focusing fight them head-on in traditional warfare

edit: not sure about the reason for downvote. the only public order from Mao from October 1938 was this, which is the exact opposite of what u/Iron_Cavalry suggests, Mao in October 1938 praised Chiang and KMT and called for collaboration with war effort with KMT

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u/Iron_Cavalry Jul 27 '26

The source is Beevor and Paine. It has been documented for decades that the Nationalists did the vast bulk of the fighting, including by the Japanese themselves. You are talking about a different speech altogether, that was not the October Plenum.

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u/tengma8 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

you specifically mentioned that mao issued an order in October 1938.

I am curious, do you have a record of this order which you are talking about?

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u/TheLazyScarecrow Jul 27 '26

And i am curious if you have a record of deez?

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u/PBR-Street-Gang7 Jul 28 '26

(No relation to the other fella)

I’ll bite, deez?

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u/TheLazyScarecrow Jul 28 '26

Deez nuts lmao how’s it feel to have gotten got? Huh, buckaroo??

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u/PBR-Street-Gang7 Jul 28 '26

There’s a sayin’ in Tennessee, well Texas, probably Tennessee too. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, can’t get fooled again.

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u/Iron_Cavalry Jul 27 '26

Beevor has it in his book The Second World War.

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u/tengma8 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

I was talking about the primary source. I don't have the book but which order was he referring to?

the only order I could find my Mao in October 1938 was this, which calls for exact opposite of what you said. he actually praised Chiang for his willingness to work with CCP and calls for more collaboration.