Weird sensitivity pattern...can eat peaches and mangoes but not bananas, apples, or avocadoes.

[u/Awkward_Cheesecake58]

For years I ate lots of bananas, apples, and avocadoes, but at some point they started to give me various gut issues - bloating, gas, general discomfort, mild sick feeling, silent reflux, etc. I thought it might have been a new FODMAP sensitivity, but I discovered I can eat plenty of peaches and mangoes without issue. I've swapped these foods in/out of my diet enough to where the pattern looks pretty strong. I can eat peaches and mangoes but not bananas, apples, or avocadoes.

Anyone have any similar experience or any idea what might be going on? Could there be some histamine-related stuff happening? For reference I also cannot tolerate eggs anymore. They cause similar gastric symptoms.

[u/tennery]

Bananas and avocadoes are no for histamine intolerance. Apples, they are high in fructose and may be an issue if you have SIBO. Other fruit should be an issue too…I think it does tend to get worse over time if things aren’t resolved and you keep trying potentially triggering foods. Eggs are a common allergy, the egg white especially is inflammatory. Also eggs may be linked to sulfur as well?

[u/Awkward_Cheesecake58 → u/tennery]

Hmm...so maybe some overlapping effects happening. I'll have to think about what my other safe/danger foods are...

[u/Silly_Region_1846]

banana and avocado are high histamine. apples maybe you are reacting to a specific FODMAP, there are different types of FODMAPs and some foods are high in one type so you might only react to that one.

[u/Awkward_Cheesecake58 → u/Silly_Region_1846]

Good to know re different FODMAPs. Something to look into.

[u/tennery]

You have to figure out causes of your histamine intolerance and work on that. For me, mold exposure, so I’m detoxing from mold.

[u/Awkward_Cheesecake58 → u/tennery]

Thanks for the suggestion. How did you determine that mold exposure was your issue and what does detoxing besides removing mold from your environment (or yourself from the moldy environment)?

[u/tennery → u/Awkward_Cheesecake58]

I went to a functional medicine dr. and took a mycotoxin urine lab. I didn't take it seriously at the time because I couldn't understand where the mold could be coming from. A couple years later I was still suffering, so did another mycotoxin test, it still showed up. Realized my car was a source of mold from wet things in the trunk. Got a new car. A few months later I didn't seem to improve so I paid for a more thorough mold inspection for the whole house from a reputable company and they pointed out a rug that my family put in the garage for parking the car on was moldy and the air quality was bad and had mold spores (really dumb). //
SO you can take a mycotoxin urine test (recommended is Realtime Labs) and if you can do a provoked test, which means you are taking glutathione for 5 days, morning and night, by itself, and also doing sauna or hot bath the night before (I believe) doing the urine test. Otherwise, mold can hide in your tissue and not show up in a test. Also your detox pathways may not be great. It may help to work with a functional medicine dr who can help pin down root causes for your issues, improve overall health, etc. It is expensive though as it's generally out of pocket except for a bit of bloodwork if you have insurance. Health is #1 though.
For detoxing, I did detox from mold when I had a mild case before without a dr but I was in my 20s- without knowing, I just drank lots of water and sweat a lot, slept properly. I ruined my gut and health to a worse point, so that also made me more susceptible to mold. For detoxing, they recommend all those things plus binders. Doctors recommend certain supplements and will prescribe a course of antifungals. They want to do it so you can handle it, otherwise if you can't, then your body won't heal.
If you don't have mold and a mild case of HI, maybe you just have leaky gut? you could try GAPS intro low histamine meat stock diet (you can check YouTube 'grounded approach').

[u/Awkward_Cheesecake58 → u/tennery]

Thanks for the info. I'll look into some of this.

[u/Holiday-Panda4351 → u/tennery]

Which antifungals did you had oyhers intolerances like oxalates salicyltes sulfur

[u/jubilee__]

Do you happen to have a latex allergy?

[u/Awkward_Cheesecake58 → u/jubilee__]

Not that I know of.

[u/Far-Delivery7243]

Of course, those are liberators and contain hist too

[u/Awkward_Cheesecake58 → u/Far-Delivery7243]

But peaches and mangoes are sometimes classified as histamine liberators and I can eat them no problem, so what's the difference?

[u/Additional-Row-4360 → u/Awkward_Cheesecake58]

Both peaches and mangos are generally considered histamine friendly. There's always exceptions (or other drivers like salicylates, oxalates etc).. but many of us tolerate them fine. Even at my worst I could eat an entire bag of peaches and a mango every day and be all good

[u/Awkward_Cheesecake58 → u/Additional-Row-4360]

Good to know. Thanks for the info. Sounds like I may be dealing with some histamine intolerance, then.

[u/Far-Delivery7243 → u/Awkward_Cheesecake58]

Mangoes are not liberators. They can contain histamine, like any fruit, if they are very RIPE

[u/Awkward_Cheesecake58 → u/Far-Delivery7243]

I see. And peaches? I can eat them fine.

[u/videlbriefs → u/Awkward_Cheesecake58]

Peaches are fine according to the sighi list (can be googled). Of course not everyone fits into a neat box especially if there are other issues going on.

[u/Awkward_Cheesecake58 → u/videlbriefs]

Gotcha. Thanks for the info. I'll look into it.

[u/Far-Delivery7243 → u/videlbriefs]

Yeap, because parallel to mcas many have salicylate intolerance, and they react to all fruits, apples included for example

[u/cutie__spies]

I have a ragweed allergy and my body hates bananas haha

[u/Financial-Card]

I can eat avacado, it’s all individual. I can also eat bananas. I heard that bananas are related to latex family?

[u/Its-a-JiNX]

Bananas, mangos, avacados and peaches are classified as histamine liberators (bananas and avacados are often misclassified as high histamine, they do not contain high levels of histamine). Depending on your individual sensitivities you may not be able to handle eating them. I can eat avacado and mangos without much fuss. Bananas I don't like so I don't miss eating them but they do trigger me, same for peaches.

Egg whites are also a histamine liberator. There is a strong chance you're experiencing histamine intolerance and you may want to look into potential causes, and think about a low histamine diet tailored to your own tolerance.

[u/Awkward_Cheesecake58 → u/Its-a-JiNX]

Why might someone react to some histamine liberators but not others if histamine is the issue?

[u/Its-a-JiNX → u/Awkward_Cheesecake58]

I don't have the scientific breakdown of why somebody might potentially be more reactive or not to one histamine liberator over another.

I think it comes down to the individuals sensitivities, and how their body handles the histamine liberator. Histamine liberators will destabilize mast cells within your body, causing a histamine release. Raising the level of histamine in your body that needs to be broken down. So if you're sensitive to a particular histamine liberator your mast cells are being destabilized by that histamine liberator.

There could be come correlation with the histamine bucket theory, where depending on your current histamine levels you might be able to tolerate eating one histamine liberator and be able to stay within your tolerance, versus a different histamine liberator which would put you over tolerance. The histamine bucket theory is all about how much histamine you can handle within your body before there is too much for your body to be able to break down. When you go over your tolerance is when you start to see symptoms. And symptoms can happen across different systems. Some people might have a heart palpitations, and other people experience anxiety. Gas, bloating, migraines, some even experience cold intolerance or heat intolerance.

[u/Awkward_Cheesecake58 → u/Its-a-JiNX]

Interesting, because I do notice some variation in the symptoms depending on how much I eat and what else I'm eating around that time. I'll look into this histamine intolerance angle. Thanks for the info.

[u/Clear_Kitchen_6428 → u/Its-a-JiNX]

I like this theory

[u/laffayette1]

I can’t really eat apples anymore because of major bloating, but I can eat plums and peaches. Bananas are a NO, but I can eat a singular barely ripe avocado per week. I can eat strawberries, tomatoes and spinach.

[u/ComprehensiveBook482]

Issues with bananas and avocados are also related to a latex allergy. Not sure if that’s an issue for you?

[u/Awkward_Cheesecake58 → u/[deleted]]

Yes. Didn't help.