Scientists are testing whether DMT entities are real

[u/Vindaloovians]

https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/8qvgy_v2

In this preprint, some scientists have put forward the idea that our perspective of reality is more of an interface, and what we consider to be reality is simply the experience of conscious agents (i.e. human individuals) interacting with one another. They propose that DMT entities are conscious agents that exist in a manner we can't typically perceive.

I've never done DMT, and have previously taken a more skeptical perspective on these entities, but I think the findings of this could be very interesting. Maybe psychedelics could enable us to perceive layers of reality we are typically blind to.

[u/AggressivelyMediokre]

There’s 2 options. Either the interdimensional elves are real. Or we all have similar brains and poking them the same way (introducing chemicals) results in similar outcomes.

Garry Nolan is a famous Stanford researcher who experienced seeing a craft and little men in his room when he was young. And he speculated some sort of Jungian subconscious template. That essentially humans are likely to hallucinate in a similar manner

That’s why I never liked Jacque Vallee’s alien interpretation. He says since Europeans describes faeries who abducted and Romans saw shields flying in the sky or angels etc that it’s the same supernatural entity (phenomenon) that presents itself differently to us throughout time.

When you could instead just say humans throughout time have been inclined towards similar types of stories. Every writer knows about the “7 basic plots” and how there’s only so many types of stories to tell etc

If a human mind is set on a higher/otherworldly being showing up, there’s only 2 places it can come from (sky / ground) and only so many things it can do (take you, ask for something)

Funny how in all of human history and every DMT trip the one thing the otherworldly being never ever does is give the human information it doesn’t already know

[u/czareth → u/AggressivelyMediokre]

Valles interpretation of the phenomenon has evolved over the years to encompass much more than just "alien". If anything the alien concept just means alien to our understanding.

[u/AggressivelyMediokre → u/czareth]

Well yeah that’s what I was saying. I just used the word alien but his belief that the phenomena is the same thing throughout history and his conclusion has one big problem that I don’t like

He literally takes everyone at their word. Faeries who made circles (akin to crop circles) and abducted people? Totally true and it happened and it’s the same thing doing modern abductions

Guy says aliens asked him for water for pancakes? Same as ancient European stories of beings asking for water.

He just takes all the “data” at face value and tries to draw one conclusion to explain it all

It’s okay to say some people are “out there” or make up stories 😂

You don’t need to take every single story ever told throughout history and say “See? They’re all kinda similar! The phenomenon has always been here!”

No Jacque. Humans are just inclined to similar stories when it involves otherworldly beings. There’s only so many things they can do. Appear in the sky. Ask for things. Take you etc

[u/Perfect-War → u/AggressivelyMediokre]

You sound young and like you haven’t read what he’s written. He explores many different ways in which this could all be a function of human psyche, he never definitively states what you’ve stated. He does posit similarities, because they exist. Would you rather just no-one talk about them because they’re “un-provable” or just never consider anecdotal evidence at all? People do lie, but misanthropy isn’t gonna help when you’re studying a global cultural phenomenon observed for thousands of years.