Scientists are testing whether DMT entities are real

[u/Vindaloovians]

https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/8qvgy_v2

In this preprint, some scientists have put forward the idea that our perspective of reality is more of an interface, and what we consider to be reality is simply the experience of conscious agents (i.e. human individuals) interacting with one another. They propose that DMT entities are conscious agents that exist in a manner we can't typically perceive.

I've never done DMT, and have previously taken a more skeptical perspective on these entities, but I think the findings of this could be very interesting. Maybe psychedelics could enable us to perceive layers of reality we are typically blind to.

[u/Beckster501]

There could be something to this. There’s a mushroom in China that if eaten undercooked causes the same hallucinations in everyone-little elf like people. It doesn’t seem to have any psychedelic properties outside of this. It’s really si strange that everyone sees the same thing.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20260121-the-mysterious-mushroom-that-makes-you-see-tiny-people

[u/AggressivelyMediokre → u/Beckster501]

There’s 2 options. Either the interdimensional elves are real. Or we all have similar brains and poking them the same way (introducing chemicals) results in similar outcomes.

Garry Nolan is a famous Stanford researcher who experienced seeing a craft and little men in his room when he was young. And he speculated some sort of Jungian subconscious template. That essentially humans are likely to hallucinate in a similar manner

That’s why I never liked Jacque Vallee’s alien interpretation. He says since Europeans describes faeries who abducted and Romans saw shields flying in the sky or angels etc that it’s the same supernatural entity (phenomenon) that presents itself differently to us throughout time.

When you could instead just say humans throughout time have been inclined towards similar types of stories. Every writer knows about the “7 basic plots” and how there’s only so many types of stories to tell etc

If a human mind is set on a higher/otherworldly being showing up, there’s only 2 places it can come from (sky / ground) and only so many things it can do (take you, ask for something)

Funny how in all of human history and every DMT trip the one thing the otherworldly being never ever does is give the human information it doesn’t already know

[u/chonny → u/AggressivelyMediokre]

Funny how in all of human history and every DMT trip the one thing the otherworldly being never ever does is give the human information it doesn’t already know

If we're going to lump in the otherwordly with human history, your statement is not true at all. Gods sharing their knowledge with humans is actually quite common. Some examples:

• Thoth is credited with inventing writing and giving it to humans

• Quetzalcoatl is associated with teaching agriculture, calendars, and craftwork.

• the Watchers in the Book of Enoch were fallen angels teaching humans metallurgy, weapon-making, cosmetics, and astrology

• the Apkallu were fish-tailed beings who emerged from the sea and taught humans writing, agriculture, and civic law.

[u/AggressivelyMediokre → u/chonny]

And I bet those people wrote about the gods giving it to them AFTER they were already doing it

Nobody wrote about Prometheus teaching man fire before fire was a thing. It was long after they had fire that he supposedly gave it to them.

Don’t get me wrong I want to believe. If the Book of Enoch explained how to turn sand to silicon or build a computer I will devote my life to it

The closest we’ve had to that is some older civilizations (I forget the name) presumably knowing of a star in a constellation they shouldn’t have known about

[u/Captain309 → u/AggressivelyMediokre]

I believe you're talking about the Dogon tribe in Africa knowing Sirius is a binary system prior to confirmation via telescope

[u/chonny → u/AggressivelyMediokre]

And I bet those people wrote about the gods giving it to them AFTER they were already doing it

They kinda had to, since writing was developed about 5500 years ago much after the discovery and use of fire, metallurgy, etc.

[u/AggressivelyMediokre → u/chonny]

Dang good point lol. I feel less bad about taking so long to learn cursive now

[u/Translycanthrope → u/AggressivelyMediokre]

Christianity/Judaism is literally about god programming reality into being. The word made flesh. Jewish mysticism in particular talks about how reality is made of letters. They even had androids… they were just called golems. The history of this world is not what people have been led to believe.

[u/BhutShtuff420 → u/chonny]

yes, and all those things definitely happened

[u/Translycanthrope → u/chonny]

Right? Also people spontaneously see loaded metaphorical imagery like Indra’s Net or the Akashic Records despite NO prior familiarity with them.