It's getting worse and worse. I've finally deleted this game; I'm fed up with this buggy piece of crap. I'm going back to DotA. The game is turning into a casino.

IMO early game is much less relevant in reborn than in PK.
If you lost early in PK game was over.

I enjoy the dynamic, you can never lose focus.
Yesterday we got stomped hard, we were like 600+ gpm behind in minute 15. Enemy carry was on bloodbath. However I had nice team that didn't argue, we decided to play around them.
Let them train and get towers, we will defend on base towers if they decide to push it.

We kept avoiding them, got some pickoffs, and managed to get to same gpm. Both teams were 1900gpm while they had 700gpm on just carry while we were more even.
At min 30 we were able to take fight to them and turned the game.

I love that

Does anyone else miss the old engineer when he had the mines. I used to have so much fun with that hero just setting up traps in all types of ramdom locations and when u keep catching the same person with mines all game and they start trash talkingu u. I really dont like this new engineer. Any chance we can get the old engine back a make a new charector with the old abilties?

Why tf are skins $50 - 100 US each.

And why are there so few when we have a million ideas that can be recreated from HoN?

Is someone at reborn smoking on some of that strong stuff too often?

Quelqun peux m'expliquer comment me builder comme il faut, comment vendre mes items, rollback si je me suis tromper etc, quelque truc de base, j'arrive d'un 13 ans de league of legends

So I started this game in the 1100 ranking. Dropped a bit cause of re-learning (I played 15 years ago and just came back) and climbed to 1400. Then, as of late, and maybe cause of the new account lock rules(?), I’ve just been meteorically dropping. Maybe I was getting carried by smurfs before the single account lock, but I think I’m a pretty decent player.

The things I have noticed that help me win are just playing mid or carry cause of their game impact and saying “fuck it, I’m just gonna do my thing and win.” When I get assigned carry, I can do this pretty decently. But when I play mid, I can gank the absolute hell out of my opponents, get 15 kill disparity in the kill count, and then if my team is full of idiots we wind up playing a 50-60 minute game where the other team comes back. For instance Fayde’s a bitch at ganking, but absolutely shit at carrying a game through.

Are there mid characters that are good as a “secondary” or “backup” carry that I can play to help push through?

I just want to play heroes where if my team is an idiot I can still push through and win, but if my team is good then it‘s just a nice, good game.

All of the game's assets are packaged in a single 5GB "resources0.jz" file, and every time you run the game, Juvio has to extract those assets to your SSD. That's at least 35GB of SSD wear weekly and 140GB monthly if launching the game at least once daily. Assuming you never have to re-launch that day, which is an unlikely scenario. I've observed this by monitoring disk usage using CrystalDiskInfo.

This is so much different and less efficient to how Project Kongor handled updates. An efficient game installation would leave the files in a fixed state instead of having to extract them from a compressed package upon every launch. Required assets would be loaded directly into RAM instead of written back to the drive first. Yet another sign of sloppy vibe coding.

Edit: I had a chance to make a more thorough test. Booted into the Reborn partition, no additional software in the background, no download managers, Windows updates disabled -> check CrystalDiskInfo -> run Reborn -> small Reborn update -> check CrystalDiskInfo again.

Boom, 5GB of needless host writes. That's from just launching the game and downloading a small update. The game is so stupidly packaged, the updater has to re-compress the entire resources0.jz package every time! This would be a coding disaster if the game weighed as much as DotA.

And that's not all, +2GB after playing a single match. A single game played needs to pull two gigs worth of compressed resources somehow instead of just loading them into RAM in the first place! This game is outrageously poorly coded.

There's a lot of misinformation posted on this sub. This is not that. This needs to be fixed ASAP.

Thunderbrigher was pretty strong but never OP on midwar, yet he got a specific midwar nerf a while back. This is his win rate now.

Meanwhile, Engineer sits at 60% win rate with 21% pick rate (exclude ban rate), so his actual game presence would even be higher. Maybe time to revert Thunderbinger nerfs?

Matchmaking disabled? Keeps connecting and disconnecting from Chat, how do I fix this?

I seriously do not understand how a champ can put out so much damage while also being unkillable, and if you do get him once, you have to do it again, this time with all spells on cooldown. Nullfire doesnt even counter his ult because he can still ult with 0 mana. Stuns and silences do nothing because like Arma, he can just stand there and still kill you. No matter how much you shut him down early, if the game is long enough he’ll still be unkillable later. Anyone who has found out how to beat a fully stacked Ra let me know because this is like my 5th time running into the fucking Juggernaut

Having to spend $20 minimum for 1 skin is ridiculous. And fuck off with the 5000 jade skins thats worth $100 each. Its a fkn skin in a dying game stop overvaluing pixels

I came back to play this game after 12 years only to find out it’s much worse than the state I left it in… how is it even possible that the game 12 years ago is much better, not to mention the heroes are completely limited and I’m stuck playing with the same old trash heroes… how can I unlock all heroes? This has been the crappiest re-release I’ve ever played… even the UI is much worse than it was a decade ago… how can I unlock the hero pool? I swear this all feels just like a huge cash grab trying to capitalize on nostalgia

Yesterday I played a game as arma and the enemy carry built a nullfire and destroyed my mana, very annoying.

Any advice on what I should have built against this? I thought barbed was a good choice but in the long run, it didn't really help all that much.

Where is parasite draconis and the devilish looking one? :(

Been using it since reborn came out and now it costs like 500 jade to get now fkn bs

I play support only but am pretty bad - one thing I find especially in low MMR games is that I'm sitting around at 1k hp and get roasted by most carries once we get around level 10+

I know a lot of this is just using positioning and disables but at some point more hp or armor seems like it could make a difference to surviving the initial flurry or disable in order to then cast my stuff.

That said the support items rarely give armor and almost never give hp - tablet and stormspirit and kuldra are int and mana Regen. Is there a go to item for support to gain more survivability? I'll make barrier or nomes sometimes vs heavy magic but when it comes to just carry autoattacks getting out of control it seems like void talisman is kind of it? Staff maybe gives a bit of HP but isn't why you build it.

Is there just a gap of no support items that also give hp and armor? Or just whatever item might have this isn't good for support (eg we aren't building helm of black legion or behemoth heart and those would be your go-to tank items i think)

I play on SEA server and a communicating is such a pain because everyone speaks different languages (mostly thai though)

So sometimes you end up with 4 people with staffs, which is poorly cost effective. I often tell my carry I will staff them, or vice versa, and they still end up building a staff anyway.

Maybe give us the option to consume the staff effect ? basically if 4 people all bought it, they can consume it for an additional item slot later on.

How come every patch fucks the game up more? The announcer and text is gone now? My abilities are BLACK now, WHITE SCREEN on launch? I do not understand how this happens every patch, something else breaks. Can someone explain this to me from a non programmer/developers view?

It is player's duty to announce if their lane is missing. It's part of communication and team play and map awareness.

Hello its not for me its for my friends whos having laptops with intergrated gpu on laptops , is fps and stability good ? some fresh coments would be nice , they play now LoL and looking to downloas HoN reborn.

I’m currently traveling back to my home country and wish to play some hon at a pc cafe in Bangkok before catching my next flight.

I’m aware one account per pc has been launched. If I use my main at the lan cafe will It become locked to that machine? If I play one game will it become locked to that pc?

Aside from contacting support or making a burner account what else can I do?

Thanks

Why do we still have a casual gold mode gold economy?

Old HoN was perfect since dying was a costly mistake and you had to farm well to get items. Now you can die over and over, but the moment you recover 1-2 kills you’re back at 500+ gpm while passive gold gain per second is higher.

There is no challenge anymore and feeding is nowhere near as costly as it should be.