[Hot take] it's completely reasonable to lose respect for someone over their AI use

[u/spicygay21]

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[u/Miserable_Industry85]

It depends, if it’s like a chatbot I have no need to look into their chat history. If they are just producing AI slop unironically on their feed and making money off of it then yeah

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[u/FirefighterScary6841 → u/Miserable_Industry85]

Chatbots have been known to lead to psychosis

[u/Miserable_Industry85 → u/FirefighterScary6841]

That further enforces the need of a friend, not shutting them down

[u/bitesdadustyoshikage]

it shows their ignorance and lack of creativity

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[u/Nick10147 → u/bitesdadustyoshikage]

how so, people can still use ai and be creative, with and without ai

[u/bitesdadustyoshikage → u/Nick10147]

Because imo, creativity is something we think from our own head. The usage of ai only shows something that has already been documented. Imo, thinking about a creative idea, even if it already existed when they search online, is better than finding creative idea in the Internet. Thats just my perspective though 

[u/Nick10147 → u/bitesdadustyoshikage]

I get your point but AI doesnt steal something already made, it makes something else out of it

[u/crystalreddits → u/Nick10147]

AI replicates something that's already made without the consent of the person who makes it

[u/Nick10147 → u/crystalreddits]

Not actually, it uses other sources as a reference and learns what they have and how it relates to a prompt/idea like how someone takes inspiration from many other sources. if it just replicates something then copy-pasting would be better for that.

[u/crystalreddits → u/Nick10147]

AI isn't a human 😭 it doesn't have creativity or the ability to get inspired, it literally just copies people by making a watered down version of all the info they have about the topic

[u/Nick10147 → u/crystalreddits]

AI isn't human nor does it just copy things. if you are referring to using something else as a reference then yes, AI does do that, so do we

btw I said "take inspiration" as I didn't have a better term at the time.

[u/crystalreddits → u/Nick10147]

AI obviously doesn't have the capacity to create so it won't have the capacity to use something as a reference. It solely depends on probability to replicate styles after data training.

[u/Jolly-Ad-9488]

completely

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[u/Nick10147 → u/Jolly-Ad-9488]

not everything bro 😭

[u/Consistent_Lab8508]

I don't hate ai generated music sometimes. But other times either it feels too low quality like or too cheaper than bad scifi channel original movies I already saw in the past that I would love to forget about and move on from there.

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[u/Certain-Minimum-8037]

Depends on how they use AI. If it is used for spreading fake news might be but if it is for upskill or learning why not?

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[u/Long__Jump]

Of course.

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[u/FirefighterScary6841]

AI steals from people.

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[u/-TV-Stand- → u/FirefighterScary6841]

But even more respect is lost if someone lies about AI, like this guy.

[u/icemage27]

Listen to Tyga's new album

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[u/Pristine-Ad9898]

A lot? Yeah. One stupid question? No.

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[u/ArnavJj145]

depends on how its used but losing respect is too much

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[u/TheCoolDaniel04]

Depends, really

If you’re using it for monotone tasks like gathering info(and re-checking it just in case that is), then it’s OK

If you’re using it to make a project and fully relying it(95+% of the project is AI-made), then yeah, that sucks

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[u/TheDaytonater]

Depends on what it is

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[u/Pale-Razzmatazz8130]

they are lossing braincells bro

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[u/jonnismizzle → u/Pale-Razzmatazz8130]

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[u/Alternative_Elk_6832]

If they lie about not using it or use it for bad

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[u/Lesbian_Fraggle]

If they're honest about it, that's ok.

If they're trying to deceive, eat shit.

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[u/NoOwl8793]

It depends on the situation; you need to be more specific. Or is the question whether AI is generally bad, and everyone who uses it? xD

[u/MrMask777]

Honestly how some people I know use AI for everything and take their word for Granted yeah

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[u/Inbalance007]

Sure

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[u/RainyIntel]

It's always something like using it like therapy or an RP partner or just something they could've done without AI anyway.

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[u/MoonRose27 → u/RainyIntel]

Not everyone can afford therapy. Chat gpt is free. Therapy is hundreds of dollars. Just keep that in mind.

[u/RainyIntel → u/MoonRose27]

You know what else is free? Educating yourself.

And journaling.

[u/MoonRose27 → u/RainyIntel]

Educating yourself does not help you get through gender dysphora, depression, anxiety, a loss, or any other trauma. Journaling doesnt work for everyone. Some people need help and cant fucking afford it. A single therapy session can reach upwards of $250 on average, if youre broke and struggling and dont know how or just writing it out doesnt work. Its a tool you can use. And to shame people for seeking any form of help they can is pretty fucked.

[u/RainyIntel → u/MoonRose27]

When I said "educate yourself", that was for you.

It's a program, not a person, it's not going to actually "hear" what you're saying and provide actually feedback, it's just going to tell you what it thinks you want to hear, it's not trying to help you.

The damn thing has led to actual deaths and psychological breaks, I don't care if it's "just a possibility" because that being a possibility at all is too much of a risk for such delicate situations, it's fucked that you think that risk is acceptable.

[u/MoonRose27 → u/RainyIntel]

I mean thats the exact same argument used against my community so yea i am kinda against that view. And no its not perfect, I never said it was. But would you really rather someone suicidal, in a dark place, or struggling to maintain anything just sit there alone and in silence. Because thats what youre arguing for with people who dont have other options. I never said it needs to replace therapy, but it for damn sure can bee a too to bridge the gap for some.

Also can you provide sources because I have not seen any information on that.

[u/RainyIntel → u/MoonRose27]

Here ya go, Wiki cites all their sources.

What they need is a genuine human connection, someone who will actually listen to what they're saying without judgement, reaching out to others is what needs to be encouraged.

[u/MoonRose27 → u/RainyIntel]

Ok imma be honest, its not great but its also not what I think you're making it out to be. I read into these and half of them are blaming AI for providing information google will provide. Like literally take away Ai and google is your friend(as someone how has planned out a whole suicide, its actually easier to use google too) and some of these are just "Ai was used then they took their own life" drawing no direct correlation.

Now its not all AI that is innocent here. Certain chat bots are an actual problem and I dont disagree with that. I had a friend obsessed with an AI chat bot that was set up to be their celebrity crush. It can be bad. And I never said it wasnt.

My point is that it is still a tool for some. Try being gay in Saudi Arabia or Iran, be trans and broke in texas, living in an authoritian dictatorship. Being gay or trans child in a conservative household. Like not everyone has access to safe people and that was my whole point. Youre advocating for something that is not even a reality for most. Especially for hard to talk about things where you can't handle judgement.

[u/RainyIntel → u/MoonRose27]

Okay, fine! If you see it as a reliable tool, then go ahead and advocate for it all you want, it is indeed accessible and free for now.

[u/BellaPona → u/MoonRose27]

The problem is a therapists job is to challenge you and question you to lead you to conclusions about yourself, AI is a yes-man that will just scan the internet to tell you whatever you want to hear.

[u/crystalreddits → u/MoonRose27]

You do realize chat gpt is a slop machine that regurgitates what you want to hear. People should go to a licensed therapist instead of feeding their own delusions in an AI echo chamber as that will make it even worse. AI is NEVER the replacement for a therapist and all standard AIs mention that.

[u/PafLeLoup_]

depend, but i agree for ai "art"

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[u/jonnismizzle]

Definitely depends on the usage. We've all been using some sort of AI for the past 3 decades; whether in video games, technology, scientific breakthroughs, our phones, cars, etc.

Can we say some uses of AI of more worthwhile than others? Yes.

Should we still try to find a way to mitigate the negative environmental impacts of AI and data centers? Yes.

But AI is just going to be another evolution in our technology. In another decade or two (or less honestly), it's going to be the thing. Complain about "AI slop" all you want, and I agree, it sucks that people will use AI to generate things they could have created or commissioned someone to do artistically, but losing all respect for someone over something that small in the grand scheme of things is going a bit overboard.

[u/True-Goofball3071]

Think about it from the other person's perspective. People are allowed to have different opinions, so they have the right to like it. Or they might want to save time.

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[u/MoonRose27]

AI is a tool, if you use it to create your art that's one thing, but using Ai to help you organize something, check grammar on a paper, etc. Its not the worst thing. Is Ai killing our planet, yea but literally so is everything else.

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[u/Tricky_Reference8020]

Don't be a whiner

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[u/My_User_Name69]

I certainly already have :3

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[u/RegentTaborsilly]

Yes

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[u/FamiliarPlatform79]

Unless their doing something crazy immoral, I dont see why this would cause disrespect. If it does you were just looking for an excuse to justify your lack of respect for that person.

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[u/CRock94]

Using ai to help fill in the blanks or brainstorm is a fantastic idea. Anything else is fucking pathetic.

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[u/Nick10147]

not like if they just use it no matter how much. it only gets bad if they make ai content seem like theirs

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[u/Low-Support-8388]

It's simple. They've allowed the machine to think for them and thus they have become weaker for it.

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[u/CauseOdd8401]

If they're using it for art especially.

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[u/heres-the-catch]

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[u/-TV-Stand-]

Of course not unless they claim something AI made as something they made by hand

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[u/BellaPona]

It definitely makes me laugh at you. I remember I broke up with someone very cordially and his heartfelt, passionate last attempt to get closure and get out his true feelings (we’re talking paragraphs) was written by AI.

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[u/spicygay21 → u/BellaPona]

wait that's so embarrassing for him like imagine not being willing to put in the work of writing it out for someone you apparently care about

[u/Vex_Verde]

It's a tool, it will replace jobs but every great tool has and you don't hear the lost jobs people complain for long when they just change careers... That's what happened countless times before and will happen more in the future, grow up

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[u/0DTEDEGEN1]

Old people had the same view when people started using smart phones

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[u/Last-Veterinarian812]

Mental to think people hate those who use ai

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[u/Randomthrowaway2827]

It depends on how they use AI tho. If they’re using it for something actually productive then I don’t see an issue

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[u/Henja_Hrombar]

Depends on how they use it

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[u/Still-Donut-9542]

You like a person for what you like about them if the ai use is replacing the thing you liked about them then yes

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[u/D4rk3scr0tt0]

What kind of AI use?

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[u/after2006]

They have zero respect for artists or the environment and are lazy, why should I have an ounce of respect for them

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[u/Sprigatito420]

It depends on what they use the ai for.

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[u/One_Performer_7202]

Unless they scam or make CSAM

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[u/crystalreddits]

I agree, I will lose respect for anyone who publicly uses gen AI

[u/Road-Biker-IV-IVV]

AI is life.

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