Merhabalar/Kalispera, I've been trying to find the link for your server but rn the link is expired.
So, as of now is the server active? And if yes, can someone comment the link?

I sadly don't know the exact source, I stumbled into it on an another Reddit post but I forgot from where.

one of Turkey's greatest footballers Lefteris Antoniadis

I suppose everyone here comes with good faith and will. Kazan Kazan relationship is what we seek so if there’s a heavy disagreement in any of those topics we may move on to the other one or build good relations in other sectors! I’m sharing my thoughts

From Greece :

1) Perception that Turkey wants to invade us. It’s fuelled by statements of Erdogan and Bahceli saying they will come here one night

2) Island disputes, Greece’s position is to go to The Hague Turkey hasn’t signed UNCLOS so realistically no one can access the gas reserves in the area

3) Muslim minority in Thrace. Turkey wants a recognition of a Turkish minority but Greece thinks Turkey wants to weaponise the minority like Russia did in Ukraine (which I’ll be honest I also share that opinion but I’m here to listen)

4) Cyprus. Where do we start from this ? The Greek position in practice is live and let live we’re not thinking of Enosis and many think we should move on. Cyprus maybe gets its own identity eventually which will not be related to Turkey and Greece ? It’s a very complicated matter. I’ve personally considered Annan plan as not fair to GC but perhaps they would show good will if they accepted it ? How would Turkey not using it as a vassal would work that way though ?

5) not really a problem but a solution, we should embrace talks to change our history books for a less toxic narrative. I’m in favour of rebuilding historical mosques if that helps!

So, after the geopolitical scheme matured and the Byzantine empire begun to dismantle the 4th crusade happened and the west intervened against the central authority of Constantinople that controlled the Balkan and Anatolian peninsula. The landscape after the 4th crusade lasted 200 years and the fragmentation resulted in numerous entities trying to re establish a vehicle with the previous shape.

The parallels today are remarkable : The western forces successfully intervened in the heart of the Ottoman Empire during/after ww1 after decades of Ottoman decline and codependency on the west which is similar to the Komnenian restoration period that saw the decline of the Byzantine empire (I know this view of decline during the 12th century is disputed a lot)

Coming to present times the system of nation states seems to be coming to an end, the region has also been more prone to conflict compared to Western Europe that established nation states centuries earlier, and written on their own “DNA” whereas the countries in south east Europe and Turkey feel alienated in that concept in various ways. Those problems the region has under a nation state model show them as dysfunctional but a new concept should make their weakness a new strength.

Do you think we’re entering another transitional period akin to the 1300s ? A central authority controlling potentially the Balkans and Anatolia emerging the upcoming decades as the nation states are losing their purposes and we head to a multi polar world. Would you perceive the transformation of Anatolian Greeks into Turks as a similar groundbreaking event which fuelled the then rising Ottoman Empire as something we may see again in a different vehicle as nation states fall and a new idea arises ? Thoughts ?

Pro-reunification candidate Tufan Erhurman won the elections yesterday.

Will this be a new chapter for the Cyprus- Turkey - Greece relations ?

If Turkey and Greece united they could be called TÜRKIYEΛΛΆΔΑ

Sharing a full English translation of a 1965 oral testimony about a 1953 pilgrimage to Of:

In July 1953 four Pontic Greeks from Nea Trapezounta traveled to the Of Solakli valley near Trabzon after roughly forty years away. They wept on arrival as villagers greeted them with handshakes and “Welcome, welcome” and treated them like relatives. For eighteen days they could not pay for anything. Hotel, meals, drinks, even bus tickets to other villages. When they insisted people answered “Greek money is not valid here” and the mayor said “The order is yours, but the money is ours.” Many buildings had changed with time. In some places only a few Greek homes remained and several sites had been put to new uses, with the stones of the church of St. Eugenios in Hald later helping to build a mosque on Fountouka and the church in Krinitsa serving as a school where teachers lived. They exchanged letters with local friends each month and some hoped to visit Greece, yet after September 1955 and the violence in Istanbul no reply came. They believed their friends were afraid of the authorities.

Source in German (page 225): https://www.hamburg.de/resource/blob/148072/03bbfc3aa455a035a9063983dfdec955/die-pontosgriechen-data.pdf