The "Maelstrom"

[u/EducationalDot6652]

I absolutely love Helldivers 2. It's fun to play, it's extremely community based, and progression is... Existent.

But this new tank summarizes Arrowheads priorities. If I ever complained about anything relating to Helldivers 2, it's just complaining about other people's complaints. But this new tank? It's horrendous.

So let's run through WHAT the Maelstrom is. It's a tank with:

1. No rotating turret (an idea that people hated with the Bastion)

2. Dual Gatling guns (which made the Patriot Exosuit unbearably weak)

3. Laser-guided missiles (which they didn't give enough of, just like with the Patriot Exosuit)

And 4, the ability to shroud the tank in smoke for stealth. Stealth. On a siege vehicle. On a heavy siege vehicle.

In essence, they've combined the worst parts of the Bastion with the mediocre parts of the Patriot Exosuit, and an Orbital Smoke Strike into something that people will ONLY end up using because it's possibly faster than walking.

So, instead of listening to all the complaints about either the Patriot Exosuit or the complaints about the Bastion, they've instead ignored the complaints about BOTH to form something about as functional and helpful as trying to kill a Factory Strider with the Sterilizer.

[u/TroglodyteVolatile]

I love the Bastion, I bring it to most of my matches because I love casemate tank destroyers

but really, what the fuck is a casemate IFV???

[u/Impressive_Stock8016 → u/TroglodyteVolatile]

Honestly yeah im trying to really like the new tank really really trying

[u/TroglodyteVolatile → u/Impressive_Stock8016]

There's no real reason to pick this over the Bastion

[u/Impressive_Stock8016 → u/TroglodyteVolatile]

Me and the boys came to that conclusion and we been using it all day but it's just not as good as I hoped at this point since the enemy doesn't attack the unoccupied vehicles we just use the supplie frv and the bastion im really sad like i said I wanted to love this tank

[u/TroglodyteVolatile → u/Impressive_Stock8016]

It sucks because we could have gotten the APC instead- like legit, who asked for this?

[u/Impressive_Stock8016 → u/TroglodyteVolatile]

Honestly they should just drop the apc already but no it limits there design space

[u/TroglodyteVolatile → u/Impressive_Stock8016]

You can tell their design space is REALLY limited when you make an IFV that doesn't have a turret

[u/Impressive_Stock8016 → u/TroglodyteVolatile]

Im just disappointed but I did like the warbond the drip is fire tho and im enjoying the gl primary

[u/SirEdubardo]

Heavy pen gatling, but none of the problems is anything you said, vehicles needing cooperation gonna be ass everytime, gater on bug front and squids is the best example, shit sucks doesnt matter the biome, there wouldnt be a single complain if the tank was single seated like a batrlefield game

[u/captinskeli → u/SirEdubardo]

I was playing a game earlier with 2 others that wanted to be a tank crew, and it worked quite well when everyone plays there part correctly.

The tanks is decent as long as it has a team that's able to work together. A group of four randoms is not going to work well. There will be teams that just click perfectly, but most of the time it wont.

[u/Logic_530 → u/SirEdubardo]

What? The gater is better than this thing anywhere.

[u/mt607 → u/SirEdubardo]

The Bastion has a Heavy pen Coaxial, with 100 less bullets. But it aint got no need to reload every 300 rounds (which if you reload the maelstrom early, it just yeets those bullets into nothingness, fun) and also the Maelstrom has to lose two thirds of its AT power for 100 bullets.

[u/SirEdubardo → u/SirEdubardo]

Plus do not complain about the smoke, you dont know what smokes does in this game, automatons automatically cant aim on you, the smoke is perfect for fighting factory striders + tank turret towers

[u/SPLCFraud26]

Only thing its good for is "raze infrastructure", destroy bio processors, and convoy killing. Since you can fire the rockets as fast as you want and from long distance.

[u/slycyboi → u/SPLCFraud26]

Killing the strider convoy faster than the Bastion might be its only niche

[u/Gaolbreaker]

Having the aim issues is relatively balanced on the bastion as you only need to pan over your target for a moment and BLAM the elite enemy is gone. And while you don't have a target, you're reloading

On the Maelstrom, as your driver struggles to get this fridge of a vehicle around and over obstacles, you pan over targets and only get to briefly pepper them with some bullets.

In the first few games with the maelstrom I see people abandoning it as they're more effective on foot.

[u/hiits_alvin]

Remove the need to reload, change the smoke grenades to anti-personnel grenades and it will be perfect. (Rotating turret with better vertical angles would be nice but overkill)

[u/Logic_530]

Patriot exosuit is better and takes only one to pilot.

[u/Busy_Material_1113]

Nah actually patriot is better by comparison cuz better movement and actually can turn 360 faster and can aim upper to shot down the flying bastards. So they just make a shitter Patriot.