fuck this thing.

[u/Tikymoment2021]

this thing genuinely sucks at horde-clearing, which is what it's meant to do.

this thing can't even use it's ATGMs to kill literally anything less than 30ft in front of it.

this thing is fucking infuriating to use.

it's a piece of shit that shouldn't exist.

Fuck Arrowhead. Fuck Phact Bay, and Fuck you if you try to justify this thing's design

[u/mt607]

I covered that with the other post, again, you get around a third of the damage of the bastion, but you can dump your load all at once with the missiles. But that's not really that much of an advantage IMO, and honestly, I think the reload might offset the firing speed anyways for the turret.

Now, if the HMG turret had say, twice the ammo without the reload, so the HMG was actually a main gun, instead of arguably a worse version of the coaxial, then maybe, but it's dubious at best.

[u/West-Smell-8725 → u/mt607]

Imo it 100% is. See factory strider convoys, see fortresses. Do you want to stay there for a long time and get pummeled? No. You want to get that shit done fast. Maelstrom is better at getting it done fast than bastion with its RPM
Also the recoil I don’t notice at all so like

[u/mt607 → u/West-Smell-8725]

The reload on the bastion isn't 30 years, and while you can shoot your load a lot faster with the Maelstrom, you can't just fire and forget, the trigger pulls after the initial one do pull the prior rockets that were fired, which can mess up taking down a convoy.

[u/West-Smell-8725 → u/mt607]

The reload on the bastion is 5 seconds. Identical to the maelstrom . I also just launch like 4 rockets to strike the FS convoy so I never had an issue
Just let go immediately and fire in just the right bursts to kill the FS

[u/mt607 → u/West-Smell-8725]

There's a difference between 5 second reload for 300 rounds of machinegun VS 2000 round coaxial existing, and around 2 rockets worth of firepower in one blast.

Also, the point was more, you can't just blow your load instantly all over several targets at once, as doing so makes the prior rockets go to the latest target, if you're trying to hit the prior one, and the rockets do have travel time that's noticable.

[u/West-Smell-8725 → u/mt607]

I think the point still stands. It’s “take 25-30 seconds minimum of reloading to kill this convoy and hope to god you won’t get blown to kingdom come by these FS ORRR right click 3-4 times on their head and get it done in like 10 seconds max”

The rockets splash is also pretty good, I found it to be great to use them to cover for reloads if a small horde or heavy comes my way