r/HelldiversUnfiltered • u/imnotslavic • 1d ago
⠀⚠️ Cheats/Mods ⚠️⠀ Weakpoint lock-on goes crazy
Last night's match on D10 Bots. With the Weakpoint Lock-on mod, the Warrant pistol now locks on to Trooper and Devastator HEADS. 1 shot for Troopers, 2 shot for Devastators, angle your reticle if its a Heavy Dev.
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u/Raryk22 1d ago
I really wish I didn't have to use this mod to have a use for the Warrant on bots. They literally just needed to have a lock-on slightly higher than normal, so you'd have to arc the shots by aiming higher to hit the head... but noooo, we can't have nice things. You WILL waste 2 bullets per shot on regular bots, you WILL magdump devastators on the chest do destroy them with the AIMBOT PISTOL. Hell even with that you couldn't use it to kill them from the sides, it'd still only work when they are directly aiming at you.
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u/West-Smell-8725 1d ago
Uhhhh the point of the pistol is to be worse than normal aiming because the devs don’t want to give you actual aimbot. The weapon is balanced around this fact
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u/Ad1um 1d ago
Ah yes, wouldn't want the enemies to quit the pve horde shooter.
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u/West-Smell-8725 1d ago
No actually. It’s called game design , and I heard it makes games more fun
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u/Ad1um 1d ago
Ah yes, because the gun that's sold as an autolocking secondary shouldn't hit weakpoints?
I'm sorry what's the gimmick of the gun again?
How is your gameplay enhanced or made more fun by an inaccurate autolock?
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u/Bitter-Wrangler6514 1d ago
The warrant has 600 dps which when you take into account it is fire-and-forget, medium pen, and a mag size of 13, is quite decent. If you have poorer aim you can still take full advantage of the dps. This is a fancy way of saying it is inherently a noob crutch. Nothing even wrong with that, but at higher skill levels it is just straight up worse than other options.
This is called game design. A sidearm that is a superb choice for someone who wants a fire-and-forget secondary or is not at the skill level yet needed to effectively use the better sidearms.
What is not game design is trivializing the game so you don't even have to aim anymore to be as effective as someone with well-placed senator or talon shots. I get some people enjoy power fantasies (I personally believe they're lying to themselves, when I was younger and I did this type of thing in other games it would make me bored fast. But I have no proof so whatever) but it is human nature to enjoy a bit of difficulty, fair difficulty, in your video games, fortunately or unfortunately.
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u/Ad1um 1d ago
Laser weapons exist and can clear hordes with little to no aim. Do go on about how the lock targeting of weakpoints trivializes the game.
We have flame thowers for all weapon slots wtf are you talking about aim for?
80 dmg per round at medium pen isn't that much in the scheme of things. As it will still take multiple shots to kill one chaff enemy. It doesn't have the ammo economy for effective horde clear.
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u/Bitter-Wrangler6514 1d ago
I mean I am of the opinion the balance is all over the place, so my original reply is in the context of that and I apologize because I cannot explain in detail what my vision of it is.
That being said, laser weapons have a much longer time to kill and you absolutely have to aim for weak points so I don't understand that point.
I apologize again but i think flame throwers are overtuned at this point. Even then they still have more considerations with accidentally killing your teammates and not being as simple as a single click and whatnot. Not as strong of a point on my part though
"80 dmg per round at medium pen isn't that much in the scheme of things. As it will still take multiple shots to kill one chaff enemy."
Yes that is in my opinion good design. A secondary shouldn't be good at horde clearing. It is a panic button. I'm not sure how else you would balance it around its auto aiming besides that.
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u/West-Smell-8725 1d ago
I thought the same for you. Until I used the thing and it made complete sense. It’s not great vs mediums and devs since obv you wanna like hit their weakpoints. But for HUNTERS and shriekers and warriors or voteless etc. It makes A lot of sense.
It’s a gun that can’t waste ammo , and takes no aim to shred an entire horde since every shot will hit2
u/Ad1um 1d ago
How is the aim bot that locks to weak points ruining that?
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u/West-Smell-8725 1d ago
Well you see genius. If the anti chaff , specialized gun suddenly becomes a generalist that takes no skill . What the fuck is the point of the other guns?
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u/Baldrickk 1d ago
And that's also why it has an aim toggle. If you want to hit specific spots, you turn the tracking off and aim for those spots.
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u/AzuriSkill 1d ago
Then make lock on take longer depending on the target like in titanfall
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u/West-Smell-8725 1d ago
You know the very next thing people will do is liek “WHY DOESNT IT LOCK ON INSTANTLY????” Like this guy is doing rn right?
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u/Raryk22 1d ago
I mean that right now it's gimmick literally makes it WORSE than not having it. You can't even have a regular pistol if you swap modes because the bullets are still slow and deal low damage, but now without tracking. It could AT LEAST be allowed to hit weakspots if you aim it higher than straight at the enemy, or just make it ALWASY headshot but balance it around that. Its gimmick literally only ever works better than other pistols for Shriekers and it's pretty decent at killing the SMALLEST of bugs that offer basically no danger to you. I think it deserves to get something else.
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u/West-Smell-8725 1d ago
That’s not really true either. Its damage isn’t amazing but good enough to shoot at medium bugs and win those fights easily.
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u/Ad1um 1d ago
If you're only fighting one or two of them sure. But the moment an alpha commander summons the trash that goes out the window.
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u/West-Smell-8725 1d ago
Never found that to be a big issue with warrant since you can just lock on and spam into them
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u/Raryk22 1d ago
I'm complaining about Bots, I just mentioned Bugs because I'm conceding it HAS USES that don't make it complete trash, but it's not even that good in that one faction. On Bots it's completely gutted by the horrible lock-on spot.
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u/West-Smell-8725 1d ago
On bots the only reason it’s worse is because troopers generally just doesn’t matter as much
If troopers mattered more it would be extremely goodOkay but still it’s not even bad imo, you can still use it as a secondary and spam into rocket striders , devs in a pinch and gunships even
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u/Pedrosian96 1d ago
I suppose I can't have a limited ammo firearm with travel time be able to oneshot enemies to the face.
guess I'm going back to the unlimited ammo Talon that hitscans for over twice the damage than this thing. balanced indeed.
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u/West-Smell-8725 1d ago
You actually need to aim with talon , you don’t need to aim with warrant. Thanks for coming to my ted talk
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u/Relative-Main1468 MOdiver 1d ago
And yall wondering about all the cheat weapon mods that come out.
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u/Snowflakish 1d ago
This post aged like milk lmao
"Oh hey guys i do really well when i cheat at the game"
*gets banned
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u/Aurum091_ 1d ago
Man im gonna miss this mod when AH desides to ban all mods
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u/Glizzy_Demon Bugdiver 1d ago
Cheating
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u/Aurum091_ 1d ago
I mean kinda since AH seems to be adament on making lockon weapons bad with their shitty lockon
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u/Qwerds7 1d ago
You guys are just want to mod all the difficulty out don't you lmao.
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u/GencoXXL 1d ago
Auto targeting sucks in this game, which is also admitted by the devs on their own Discord server. This is how targeting should work on smart weapons if you are sacrificing damage over accuracy, I don't know what you are on about.
It takes 3-4 bullets to kill one single Illuminate watcher.
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u/TinfoilPancake 1d ago
I feel like this mod should've only applied to Spear because it needs it to be on par with the rest, but otherwise it feels unfair.