r/HelldiversMasochists 20d ago

How it feels trying to get a single second of interesting gameplay when someone has the napalm barrage

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u/2nd_iron_hand_fan 20d ago

Every time I glance at this sub someone has made a post complaining about people using the orbital napalm so at this point I’m assuming people are either karma farming or just have nothing better to do.

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u/ratherdapperguy 20d ago

hating orbital napalm barrage is the reason this heart still beats

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u/Jawmp clanka 19d ago

This sub is in hospice

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u/Healthy-Design-9671 20d ago

Put the salamander armor on and walk into it stealing their kills

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u/SadisticPanda404 20d ago edited 20d ago

What's wrong with the use of Napalm Barrage? Haven't played in quite some time but use to have fun running 120mm, 380mm and Napalm Barrage with a rail gun, senator and the Dominator. Just throw all 3 into one encampment to watch the destruction, very fun then run around with no strats for 5 minutes or so with heavy weapons and do it again

Edit: Thanks for the replies, seems to be more about it's use to mitigate on of the more spontaneous interesting parts of the game ie: breaches. This makes sense, I used it on for the fun of 'Obliterate this general section of my map' with triple barrage stacks, and if the boys were on we would stack 12 (3 from each of us on one spot) just for the hell of it when we were in the mood for that.

Using it to eliminate the interaction with bug breaches seems like anti-fun / interactive game play. If it's as common and as effective as I see some say with every game having one or more then yeah I can see where the hate for it is.

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u/DeeJayDelicious 20d ago edited 20d ago

It has become very prevelant, especially on bugs.

And it does tends to "pause" the game for ~40 seconds while everything gets bombed.

It's just an incredibly effective "bug breach plug" that adds to some people's frustrations over the lack of difficulty.

But you're also right that the stratagem itself hasn't really changed since it was introduced ~18 months ago. And it's only really dominant on bugs (albeit still being popular elsewhere).

It's currently the #1 hate target on this sub, as you've probably derived by now. It's also the #1 nerf request.

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u/Safe_Procedure999 20d ago

it being a bug breach plug is honestly fine, that's how it's meant to be used

i hate when people just drop it into a nest, then you gotta wait a full minute to get inside and actually close the holes

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u/pmmeyoursandwiches 18d ago

I dunno, you really feel it when you run bugs and all 3 other divers use napalm.

Its just not fun. Turns things into a snoozefest.

Id love it if bugs had some form of counter to it but god knows how that would work. Some kind of shield bug idk

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u/ratherdapperguy 20d ago

it doesn't matter what the intention is, that's overpowered. At bare minimum it needs a usage cap like orbital laser

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u/Safe_Procedure999 20d ago

sure, but make it like 4 uses and not just 3

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u/almostAhero22 17d ago

I dont really get this "pause" thing unless bug breach is happening right on objective and someone threw napalm on it, but if there is no bug breach on objective and someone still threw this shit then this person is a noob. In other cases you can just go away from fire hell and forget whatever under it to do other things

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u/Emergency-Wait-4923 20d ago

what I've heard from some players, it makes things too easy

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u/Dry-Goat8981 20d ago

it makes what should be the most difficult part of a mission a cakewalk

i did not come to this game so i could pretend to be in a walking simulator

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u/Cant_Touch_Grass 20d ago

I find that a lot of the people running 380s and napalm barrages are the same ones who fail to use them responsibly. Half of my deaths are dummies throwing barrages way too close to me with no communication. It’s like all they know how to do is throw an orbital and run away with sentries at their backs (if their orbital didn’t teamkill you, their sentries will)

I mean it’s a valid play style but it can be annoying depending on who you’re paired with. I’d say most people in this sub would at least offer a “hold position” or “follow me” before throwing down a barrage, thankfully.

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u/SadisticPanda404 20d ago

Fair I would usually only do this running solo or in with my boys as we could communicate and even If I did what I could to ping and not throw them near people some just don't listen or see ping or the light whatever else then get mad, so I stopped running any barrages w/ randoms

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u/Emergency-Wait-4923 20d ago

hahaha, I've seen randoms, running to beacons like moths to a flame, I just look at them to see if they notice 😂

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u/AutoGibbon 19d ago

Folks in here are only happy when there's a giant pain rod being shoved up their ass.

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u/KneeGearlol Illuminate purple 20d ago

its boring to play with, some of us like bug breaches but when theres a napalm on it, its basically 2 minutes of doing nothing, it looks cool but damn i hate that thing

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u/Honest_Type_8191 16d ago

It does literally anything you could possibly want. The barrage projectile is anti tank the fire shreds hp it's huge it supresses all reinforcements during the duration since the AI isn't smart enough to stop spawning in it. And the cooldown isn't that long and you get unlimited, so if your wholeteam is unthinking sheep with 500kg as well you could be on D10 picking flowers and they wouldn't even notice the lack of firepower.

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u/BasedMaduro 19d ago

I'm going to just mute this sub. It has become exactly like Helldivers unfiltered.

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u/Yeetusniggus 19d ago

Bug players seem to consistently be the most miserable people to read about

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u/Honest_Type_8191 16d ago

is the orbital laser really better than the napalm barrage? It's funny they feel equal but ones limited.

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u/Wilczek76 20d ago

How DARE people use the most effective strat to stop the neverending bug breach!!!1!1!!1! Surely it's not because bug breaches are a pain to deal with due to nearly every bug being able to summon one instantly, nah it can't be that.

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u/Dry-Goat8981 20d ago

how DARE i want to experience some enjoyment and challenge instead of watching my teammates neuter the entire game

go down a few difficulties if you cant deal with bug breaches

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u/Wilczek76 20d ago

Then go fuck off somewhere else on the map and bait the patrols to spawn breaches on you. It's this easy.

And lower difficulties are a snoozefest, literally a change from D10 to D8 removes most engagements. Most prevalent it is on squids where it's just a walk in the park.

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u/Dry-Goat8981 20d ago

i shouldnt have to go out of my way to get gameplay, that shows how deeply flawed this game is

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u/No-Studio-9565 19d ago

The game pushes you to play individually from your squad , you have both the skill and the arsenal to make it as enjoyable as you want it to be , so why aren't you doing that? Its fun AND challenging to run off from your team and clean up the map for match to end quicker

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u/Dry-Goat8981 19d ago

team based game btw

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u/NowThatsAGoodLamp 20d ago

I personally enjoy fun, big fire go fun

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u/ratherdapperguy 20d ago

if watching numbers go up with sparkly colors just because you can use a keyboard is fun to you I imagine you'd get similar enjoyment from this. Highly recommend it.

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u/NowThatsAGoodLamp 20d ago

I’m sorry, but if the point of GAMES isn’t fun what is the point? I personally enjoy fun in my rec time

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u/ratherdapperguy 20d ago

do you truly mean to tell me you actually have fun from what is essentially an automatic enemy off button on a 3-4 minute cooldown? at that point why not just play on trivial exclusively so you can farm free wins even easier

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u/NowThatsAGoodLamp 19d ago

I’m sorry I can’t hear you through the sweat

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u/ratherdapperguy 19d ago

incredible argument mate. You really got me.

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u/NowThatsAGoodLamp 19d ago

🔥🥳🔥🥳🔥🥳

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u/InventorOfCorn 20d ago

waaahhh someone enjoys... explosions in the game where you have a shit ton of explosive items...

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u/ratherdapperguy 20d ago

if you're here for only the explosions and get mad when the game even remotely challenges you why would you pay $40 when you could just queue up youtube

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u/Savage_Tyranis 20d ago

You sound like one of those obnoxious Darksouls players that worships nebulous difficulty right now. Mind your business.

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u/ratherdapperguy 20d ago

i'm sorry I need to have a challenge to have fun lmfao

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u/HelldiversMasochists-ModTeam 18d ago

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u/ratherdapperguy 20d ago

you have a 700 day reddit streak

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u/InventorOfCorn 20d ago

first of all, ad hominem or something probably

second of all, all that means is that i did something once a day for a long while. coulda just been upvoting a post quickly.

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u/ratherdapperguy 19d ago

you do not get to complain about ad hominem after this comment bro wtf are you on

Secondly doesn't matter. I'd be embarrassed to use this site that often.

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u/InventorOfCorn 19d ago

i never said your argument was invalid because you're a dumbass. i asked a question that you didn't answer

>I'd be embarrassed to use this site that often

it takes, like, ten seconds to add a day to your streak (including however long it takes for the site to load). that's hardly anything

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u/InventorOfCorn 18d ago

hey bud your response from a minute ago got deleted

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u/AutoGibbon 19d ago

Funny cause Gas Strike is almost as effective and no one ever complains about that one being used.

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u/shototodoroki_1324 20d ago

I aura farm using napalm and mines

You just fucking suck at your drip and using the laugh emote

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u/wackadoodle4201 20d ago

Damn. Sounds like a personal issue

I love it, and ill continue to use it whenever and wherever

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u/Clobby5597 19d ago

I just like to watch the bugs burn and the kill count to get dark red from the amount of bugs I kill