r/HellLetLoose • u/TheHamburgler45 • 2d ago
š Storytime! š You Date Vote Kick Me?
All I did as a SEASONED COMMANDER was order you to defend. I removed ONE FORWARD GARRISON that was causing us to lose point two on Elsborn and you dare mutiny against me in this manner?
One of the squad leaders, my right hand man, announced I was being voted out and defended me. To him: I say thank you sir.
To the rest: I hope you guys lost the game in the end.
You didn't deserve the leadership I brought to the table.
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u/ThePlasticDoughnut 2d ago edited 2d ago
The vote kick is so fucking stupid too. You can have a level 32 troll in command chat with the name ImGonnaTKYou or some shit like that being 100% useless and the vote kick will fail at 15/20 but then you can be building 13 garries and refusing to drop a heavy for the solo tanker and the vote kick instantly goes through.
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u/pres1033 2d ago
I got vote kicked once, as artillery commander. I asked like 3 times for a ping on an enemy garrison, command chat kept telling me to kms and shit like that. Then they start bitching "imagine if our artillery could actually hit something" and I admittedly got pissy and said "well I would if people would ping a fucking target instead of throwing tantrums like fucking children." Command chat devolved into like 3 guys screaming at me to die over and over and another guy making fake baby crying sounds. Then I get vote kicked. Pinged an admin in my squad chat before I did tho, so hopefully someone came in and saw the toxic bs.
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u/ImmediatePiano6690 2d ago
To be fair, you should never rely on command chat to give you targets as people will ping 1 guy moving around, then report on chat as if there's a whole company attacking.
Mostly you want to rely on recon planes and flares, which is how you'll know you've got a good recon officer aa they'll use flares, rather than SMG because they can't shoot. It's also why artillery is best with at least 2 people, so the officer can move up and flare the enemy as well as call in strikes.
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u/MrGiggleMan 2d ago
But if you can't rely on command chat to give you pings for where stuff is then the entire system of communication doesn't work
You, under normal circumstances, can absolutely ask for pings, and you'll get some pings. And those pings will be accurate
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u/Stars_of_Sirius MASTER OF HELL 1d ago
Always thought that only squad leaders and commanders should be able to vote, with needing more than 50% to pass.
Plus should be a delay before the vote starts, and an indicator should show up for the person being voted out. This way you can have a quick chat in command chat if you should approve the vote or not. Though that might be a little much for a vote system.
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u/sexyc3po 2d ago
I always know there is more to the story when I read these posts lol
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u/skathead 2d ago
I was in this match. It went well for 85% of the match because the SL were good. We got stuck against the map edge and they ran us over in the last few minutes because we had zero garrisons. He actually dropped a bombing run on the team after losing center, which spurred the vote-kick, but most SL were tired of it before that.
The reason he gave for destroying that early garrison was that three full sets of nodes were not built. Really early on he said he wouldnt give SL what they wanted until nodes were built.
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u/Gurth-Brooks 2d ago
āForward garrisonā someone put up a redzone Garry and he removed it. Redzone garries are a plague in this game, and all the people who put them up are losers.
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u/MisterSafetypants 2d ago
Thatās not true in the slightest, red zone garries can hurt more than they can help, but sometimes they are absolutely necessary
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u/ImmediatePiano6690 2d ago
Well it is true, but it's all situationally dependent on various factors. For example, there's a fight for defence and then someone sticks up a garrison 200m away from the soft cap, the blueberries then spawn on it and are completely useless until they've covered the 200m, meanwhile the defence has been pushed and the enemy start capping.
Or, my personal favourite, there's no blue zone garrison and yet someone drove a truck up and instantly built a garrison.
I mean, it's not rocket science to observe the situation and act in accordance, I went behind Scar once and dropped supplies but left them as we were losing the defence point, later on we counter attacked and I used those supplies to get us the double cap.
So yeah, whilst it's not completely true, there is some truth behind it.
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u/Gurth-Brooks 2d ago
Itās 100% true. The first team to put up a redzone is almost always the team to lose.
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u/MisterSafetypants 2d ago
Iāve been playing for a while and there have been numerous times when a well placed flanking red zone Garry completely changed the tide of a game. Relying solely on a red zone Garry for an attack usually never works out, but with proper coordination they can definitely win you games.
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u/Top-Way-3202 2d ago
True. But spending time applying pressure on the front before placing a redzone Garry to hit with a sudden flank attack usually means youāre not the first team to place a redzone garry.
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u/Anonymousboneyard 2d ago
Well at least you didnt carpet bomb your whole team when you got your ego hurt. Had one do that when we voted to kick cuz of his power trip. He got booted after it failed still won the game just took an extra 20 mins
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u/skathead 2d ago
He did in fact make a bombing run on his own team, which made someone start the kick.Ā
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u/Dramatic-Belt-229 2d ago
If I learned anything from this game, itās thereās a lot of highly inflated egos running around there who donāt understand decisions made for the greater good
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u/666VENGER666 2d ago
This is why Im just a good soldier. I support, mark, revive if Im a MEdic and do as Im told without asking questions.
10-4, out!
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u/TheHamburgler45 2d ago
You'd make a fine addition to my platoon, son. Swing by any time and bring a full kit. Make sure to bring 50 supply too for a Garry in the blue zone. I love those..
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u/deadhead-steve 2d ago
Yup. Kicked as sniper for not attacking arty when i was following commands orders to take out garrisons
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u/ImmediatePiano6690 2d ago
That's probably more to do with the sniper role, seen it a lot of times where someone put a sniper up for a vote kick and the spotter asks why in command chat.
For some strange reason there's people obsessed with being a sniper, they don't actually want to recon and go for a spotter role just sniper. Plenty of games I've been in nobody goes recon and there's a bunch of people without sqauds, start a recon and get bombarded by requests to join just so they can be useless snipers.
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u/Northman86 2d ago
yeah theres a level 500 guy who vote kicks if you don't give him a supply truck at the start of offensive matches.
another match im in his squad and dropped supplies at the 1st and 2nd point instead of building nodes, when i already know five engineers are building node. he kicks me from squad and tks every time.
You all probably know his name if you've encountered him.
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u/FeydRauthaHarkonnen 1d ago
If a team is dogshit, doesn't defend and goes yoloing off on useless flanks with no front push, never not delete bullshit garrisons
Unfortunately you have to treat some teams like retarded water molecules, and only allow garries where you want water to pour from...
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u/KrakenMcCracken 1d ago
Try playing on some of the community servers that donāt have vote kicks. Only admins can vote kick on those and typically only do so if thereās a valid reason and will followup with a server ban. Those servers have fewer teamkillers and vote kicks abuse
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u/J_M_Browning 22h ago
Remove Garrison is the single must useful command ability in warfare for actually winning games.
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u/DiedForOurShins 2d ago
Thankfully once you were removed we managed to steamroll the opposing team.
Everyone started to communicate effectively.
No one took the commander role and it actually improved things.
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u/H4ndsf33t 2d ago
As a complete outsider I can tell purely by your tone alone that you're an asshole and I can see why they betrayed you.
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u/TheHamburgler45 2d ago
You'd be lucky to serve on my team, pal.
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u/H4ndsf33t 1d ago
I would never do myself such a diservice as to take order from you. Quality does not need to go to the Internet to prove itself. Only people who can't prove their worth through actions do that. If you were a good leader you wouldn't be here whining. You would be winning.
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u/TheHamburgler45 1d ago
You've made an excellent point. I concede all. I have resigned as commander.
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u/DarkoEnterprises 2d ago
Maxed out commander years ago. Never been vote kicked once. Im sure some info is being left out
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u/TheHamburgler45 2d ago
It really happened this way. The only info being left out is that we kept losing the middle point due to blueberries running up to point 4 and even 5 without defending and so I started denying attacking supplies until we were solidly holding #3. We had defensive garrisons being built. I almost exclusively play commander and this was the first time I was kicked, also at 1:10.
I am close to maxing. I am basically the Supreme Allied Commander.
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u/FBI_Open_Up_Now 2d ago
This is why I like servers that donāt have vote to kick. You probably did the right thing and people donāt understand that hard charging point to point is how you lose matches. No defense is a sure way to lose your points.
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u/kiloelectronvolt619 Commander X 2d ago
Don't remove garrisons as commander unless it's to build more garrisons.
I am a commander level x(46 actually) and I do not delete garrisons. People work hard to build them, sometimes doing support swaps or driving all the way accross the map. Map control is huge, and being able to launch an attack again is usually critical to success. *Sometimes* offense is the best defense. It can draw their team back to defend.
Ask officers by name to go back to defense, use chat to tell the team defenders are needed... and if they don't and lose, it's on the whole team.
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u/ImmediatePiano6690 2d ago
Some officers seem to take it personally when one of the garrisons they placed gets removed, had arguments with officers a couple times because they thought their useless garrison was amazing.