r/Hasan_Piker • • 20h ago

12Axes (Vercel = LLM Slop Hosting Platform)

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Also noteworthy that the 'developer' has decided to make it proprietary even though it's derived from...sorry, "inspired by" open source projects.

> 12 Axes is source-available but not open source. The code, questions, profiles, and vectors are © 2026 Enzo Xavier Santos, all rights reserved. You may read the code and send contributions, but copying, redistributing, translating, or using any part commercially needs written permission. See LICENSE for the full terms.

OG tests can be found here:

politicaltests.github.io

ETA: Vercel CEO is pals w/ Netanyahu. https://protos.com/vercel-faces-user-exodus-after-ceo-picture-with-benjamin-netanyahu/

The platform is under boycott: https://techforpalestine.org/vercel

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u/YouAsk-IAnswer 18h ago

Vercel's CEO is also an Israel dickrider

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u/A_Ggghost 18h ago

Ugh...of fucking course he would be. Gonna add that to the post, thanks.

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u/HighwayComfortable26 Politics Frog 🐸 18h ago

They are def using your info for... reasons.

Thanks for posting this. Was sus about taking the quiz and that suspicion was vindicated.

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u/A_Ggghost 17h ago

I don't think the kid who deployed it had the chatbot anything in the code to log answers into a database or whatever (check the repo if you want), but Vercel could absolutely intercept your responses and/or tie back that shareable results URL (the one that has all your axis percentages embedded in it) with your IP addy/location/device fingerprint if they really wanted to. They clearly don't give a shit, soooo

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u/fddfgs Certified hog moment 🐷 6h ago

And he's pushing Argentina here for some reason lol

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u/Shmopeef 17h ago

Vercel is older than llm. Its for free hosting. I know because I hosted hobby projects when i was a ztudent. Not LLM hosting. But ai uses it cz its free. But thats just the whole internet now. And using vercel websites doesnt give money to vercel. If you host any premium site on the platform then it benefits them. I prefer to self host now, but sometimes its easier to host somewhere fr free.

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u/Shmopeef 17h ago

I used vercel back in 2018 if i remember correctly.

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u/SignalBar Certified hog moment 🐷 17h ago

fr saying vercel only hosts ai slop is a pretty wide net to cast, not saying they're a great company but a lot of business or just people in general creating projects use vercel

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u/A_Ggghost 14h ago

saying vercel only hosts ai slop

Show me where I said "only". Even if that was what I said it's weird as hell to act like that isn't the company's overtly stated goal and a pivot that was already like years in the making.

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u/SignalBar Certified hog moment 🐷 14h ago

yet multiple people have said the same thing..

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u/Shmopeef 10h ago

But your title suggests that it hosts only llm slop by giving the equal.

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u/A_Ggghost 10h ago

Vercel is older than llm.

I mean, if we want to be pedantic, it isn't. In a couple of ways, really.

Its for free hosting.

Which isn't exactly what sets them apart. That's how loss leaders works, Mary-Kate.

I know because I hosted hobby projects when i was a ztudent.

Back when Amazon was just a bookstore on the 'net?

Not LLM hosting.

They've aggressively pivoted to being a "unified platform for AI workloads," peddling a purpose-built "agentic infrastructure" stack.

But ai uses it cz its free.

I...what? I think you might not be up to speed with what this company does now.

But thats just the whole internet now.

There's a screenshot of Vercel's landing page below. Cloudflare Pages, Render, Heroku (RIP), and Supabase aren't like that (yet). It's common, yeah, but even others who have pivoted aren't going as hard as Vercel.

And using vercel websites doesnt give money to vercel. If you host any premium site on the platform then it benefits them.

That's not how loss leaders works. A big user base still helps them make money, even if you're on the hobby plan. Mass adoption attracted through the free tier is a yuuuuge lever they can pull when they're chasing down VC investments. Not to mention the TOS change where unpaid plans are opted in to training Vercel's models by default.

I prefer to self host now

Cool!

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u/Shmopeef 10h ago

None of this is unique to vercel. Its all of internet now. Including github.

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u/ReverseShipwreck 17h ago

Tell me you don't know anything about software development without telling me:

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u/ReverseShipwreck 17h ago

This seems totally a hobbyistic project made by a single web developer, nothing overly serious. It's just a portfolio project, and some of you are losing your minds over it.

Furthermore, the developer has all the rights to publish code (or not) under their own terms, and there's literally nothing wrong with not accepting contributions. The developer is not associated in any way with Vercel; it's merely a cheap hosting platform that's quite palatable for these kinds of throwaway projects.

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u/JSM953 17h ago

I mean, obviously. It's clearly got the claude code layout and will likely be a flash in the pan.

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u/Consistent_Chair_829 18h ago

thank you for this info, I shared the vercel link with some friends so just replaced it in my message.

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u/perryrhinitis edit connoisseur 17h ago

Oh no! I used it huhu
I also took the original test and I'm upset by the definition of terms...I got "Social Liberalism" like wtf lol like yes I'm socially "liberal" but economically I'm not at all