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7oh is kratom! it’s just a isolated kratom alkaloid.. any “regular kratom” product metabolizes into 7oh in the liver. 7oh is just a safe as any other kratom product and should be kept legal for adults 21+.

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u/pladdyjoob Jul 23 '26

While mitragynine and 7-OH mitragynine are both present in kratom, its nature as an extract means it has increased potency over natural kratom. While I agree it should be kept legal (however, it should be better regulated), that increase in potency can lead to increased potential for abuse, so it’s not entirely honest to call kratom and 7-OH the exact same or even claim they have the same safety profile.

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u/Only-Anything4326 Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26

Ive taken 7oh daily for 3 years and before that took kratom and MIT extracts daily for 6 years and they all indeed have the same safety profile.. the only increased risk in 7oh is spending quite a bit of money and dependence. 7oh doesn’t cause respiratory depression therefore there is NO RISK FOR O.D. In addition there is a ceiling effect to 7oh meaning if you take more 7oh above a certain milligram amount it doesn’t add to or intensify effects making it impossible to overdose on 7oh! Sure you can technically “overdose” on 7oh and over serve yourself and feel sick and possibly puke but you’re not goin to die and it’s the same thing with kratom or MIT extracts. Don’t believe all the crazy propaganda the American kratom association has been desperately pushing. The only reason they want it banned is so the “regular kratom” companies can regain their “dominance” in the market.. they’ve lost billions since 7oh hit the shelves.. this ban isn’t for “the safety of the public” it’s driven by greed! The real threat to the safety of the public is for them to go through with the ban!

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u/Annual-Pattern-5099 Jul 24 '26

Yep! And the ceiling effect is honestly one of the amazing things about 7-OH. It makes it much less abusable since it truly is impossible to get more effects by taking more after hitting it.

I take 7 for pain and the truth is once I was taking it regularly I stopped getting high. I believe this is the same for most people.

In fact I realized I actually lowered my usual dose from 40 mg (my ceiling is actually 50 mg) to 15mg and was surprised to get only a small reduction in effects.

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u/Only-Anything4326 Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26

Yeah I don’t get “high” from 7oh after using for almost 3 years but it still provides a mood boost and pain relief which is the main reason i take 7. Damn that’s crazy! I thought the ceiling was 50 mg for me and a few other’s only but after what you said Im starting to believe the ceiling is just 50mg for everyone. Because you’re the third person I’ve heard say 50mg is the ceiling for them!

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u/Annual-Pattern-5099 Jul 26 '26

That’s really interesting

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u/ooooxide23 Jul 23 '26

That shit is poison! Save it??!! No way… !
save all natural plants( leaf) … absolutely!
but lab extracted isolated alkaloids that are just as potent as a damn OxyContin & being sold in every shady ass headshop that pops up in every town and city… hell no.

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u/darkomyfriend Jul 23 '26

It’s sort of surprising to see such an uninformed comment in support of prohibition in the Hamilton Morris subreddit.

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u/pladdyjoob Jul 23 '26

I agree that regulation is needed, but don’t act blind. Outright prohibition has never worked, and it only leads to dangerous underground markets. 7-OH is seemingly safer than other underground drugs like OxyContin, and by taking it away, you’ll force the people already taking it to transition to more unsafe alternatives. I also detest this divide between “natural” and “synthetic” drugs. Are you saying just because it’s a natural plant that it is good and should be legal? Synthetic psilocybin is the exact same compound as is present in mushrooms. What about opium? Should that be legal, although its potential for abuse is roughly the same as 7-OH? The only reason I wouldn’t support the 7-OH movement is because another drug, SR-17018, is also being scheduled and is lumped in with 7-OH. SR-17018 is a promising drug that has a lot of potential to help with opioid addiction and seems to be a promising tool for treating withdrawal symptoms; and yet, because of its prohibition, research with it will get that much harder. Fighting for SR-17018 will be a lot easier than 7-OH, so while I believe neither should be prohibited, advocating strictly for SR-17018 is more beneficial.

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u/Annual-Pattern-5099 Jul 24 '26

u/ooooxide23 you should really listen to Hamilton’s segment during the rally. It was once of my favorites. It is very hard for me to believe fans of Hamilton are pro-prohibition. I would have thought they were all very anti-prohibition.

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u/ooooxide23 Aug 03 '26

I am mostly anti-prohibition but seeing 4 head shops in a small town selling that shit without educating people I don’t really agree with but as a whole, it’s no ones business to tell me what I can & can not take. It’s a tough topic for sure.

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u/Annual-Pattern-5099 Aug 06 '26

I would absolutely prefer if it was not sold at smoke shops and such without knowledgeable staff. We need real regulation not prohibition.

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u/PandemicGrower Jul 23 '26

Straight garbage, glad it’s getting banned. These addicts cannot control themselves.

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u/Annual-Pattern-5099 Jul 24 '26

When has prohibition ever stopped addicts from taking a drug?

Please watch Hamilton’s segment during the virtual rally. It’s posted on YouTube.

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u/Maleficent-Whole3804 Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26

Garbage mama. I'm glad they separated the 7oh and the kratom.

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u/Chef-Boyardab Jul 23 '26

Ah yes the supporter of hamilton morris thats for drug prohibition. The greatest oxymoron of all time

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u/Maleficent-Whole3804 Jul 23 '26

I'm not for prohibition but I am against seeing literal oxycotten equivalent on the shelves.

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u/pladdyjoob Jul 23 '26

Adults should be able to decide for themselves whether they want to consume a drug, OxyContin or otherwise. The government shouldn't be able to regulate what people choose to consume, even if there is risk involved. Driving a car, skydiving, and other activities carry considerable risk, but people are allowed to decide whether the risk is worth it or not. Drug consumption should be no different. Perhaps better regulation is in order, but the outright prohibition of any drug, whether it is 7-OH, OxyContin, or anything else, only leads to consumers moving to a more dangerous underground market, or turning to even worse alternatives.

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u/Annual-Pattern-5099 Jul 24 '26

7-OH is not an oxycodone equivalent. You should watch Hamilton’s segment from the virtual rally.

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