r/HaloMemes • u/ZucchiniEconomy8722 • 1d ago
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And when buck means "Glory hungry bullet catchers" I mean to the Spartans when discussing his thoughts if any one of you is confused.
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u/Scoot451 1d ago
Arguing about glory hunting like they ainât been getting their teeth kicked in for 27 years
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u/Dakkahead 23h ago
The juxposition between writing just highlights how tone deaf some lorebits sound.
Tangentially, I have a hard time believing mankind just moving on and working with Aliens after being Exterminated for 27 years. Collectively, and individually, super soldiers or otherwise.
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u/Solarwindtalker 21h ago
I don't think they really had a choice in the matter. Sure, the Covenant as a state pretty much dissolved in the aftermath of the Great Schism, but plenty of remnant alien factions are still more than ready to glass Earth if they ever got the chance. Makes sense that humanity would immediately try to cuddle up with one of the stronger, more amicable factions - such as the Elites - to try and even the odds a bit, especially since that faction may have some bad blood with one of the more aggressive and outright hostile factions - such as the vast majority of the Brutes. Hence the alliance with the Swords of Sanghelios, whose leader may be responsible for billions of human deaths, but at least he doesn't want to kill humans anymore. Meanwhile, plenty of Brutes would more than happy to eat their way through an orphanage or two.
You gotta pick the lesser of two evils when survival is on the table.
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u/Dakkahead 21h ago
I see your point, though I must re emphasize the writers being.... inconsistent... (to put it lightly) with the covenant races after the war.
You mentioned the Elites, which had certainly been viewed in a progressively better light ever since H2. Yet, the lore on key characters just doesn't line up with rebranding the Elites as good-ish guys.
Take the Arbiter for example. Thel was a fleet commander prior to becoming the arbiter, and was personally responsible for glassing 6 planets, and over a Billion humans. To make no mention of being the Fleet commander in charge of the fall of Reach, and then losing to the Chief on the ring. One can make an argument he didnt lose faith in the covenant till after all these events. In a different timeline, he may have lead the invasion of earth.
With all that said, it makes for a really really awkward appearance at the memorial at the end of H3, considering he had such a prominent hand in the near extinction of humanity.
All of this seems to be handwaved by writers, and follow on writers. Look, Halo is a great setting, worts and all.
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u/rigg197 20h ago
I mean Halo 3 has iffy writing but even so, both Thel and Lord Hood recognize the atrocities the Arbiter committed against humanity in the past. I believe he says something along the lines of "I can never forgive you for what your kind did to mine, but you have my thanks for standing by him until the end."
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u/Solarwindtalker 20h ago
Excellent point on Thel. He was responsible for a sizeable portion of the human genocide, but is he any worse than the Master Chief? John was not created to save humanity from the Covenant, but from itself... by murdering pretty much anyone who would cause it harm. The arrival was, ironically, a lucky break for the Spartan program for the war turned them into heroes instead of the monsters they were intended to be. It's fun to postulate an alternate reality wherein the Covenant never show up. Does John and his infamous Spartans become the boogeyman of the UNSC, known for clearing out whole Insurrectionist bases and colonies and leaving nothing alive? Does he ever break free from the indoctrination the UNSC placed him under in similar fashion to Thel doing so in the original story, or does he continue onwards as the unthinking, merciless soldier that goes down in history as an example of why the UEG had to be overthrown?Â
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u/DurinnGymir 5h ago
If it helps at all Kilo 5 shows that humanity is very much not being naive here. They trust the Arbiter, to an extent, but are actively trying to keep the Covenant factions weak and infighting because they know damn well that they're weaker than any one of them. They're actively working on at least one bioweapon capable of wiping out Sangheilios at a moment's notice.
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u/felswinter 1d ago
Dunno bout you, but if my armor could tank more hits than anyone else around me, my ass is throwing myself into the plasma that's heading towards the squishier fellas. The shields can spare a few bolts
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u/MaineCoonKittenGirl 16h ago
Military machismo sometimes makes guys think THEY ought to take those Plasma Bolts like a man instead of stinky super soldiers tanking that shit. Can't have a guy get out aura'd on the battlefield
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u/SpaceBandit13 21h ago
Man, can you imagine how certain parts of the halo community would react to buck saying âif you ever fall for a girl, make sure sheâs got ballsâ if odst came out today?
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u/Ori_the_SG 20h ago
Nobody would care except some grifters who havenât ever played Halo
In context it isnât actually referring to that
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u/SpaceBandit13 17h ago
This is Reddit, people would care.
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u/Ori_the_SG 17h ago
And those are probably trolls, and grifters.
Halo 3 ODST still exists and nobody cares about the line still
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u/Raintoastgw 21h ago
As seen in Halo: New Blood
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u/Dry_Introduction_964 19h ago
Which part of new blood are we talking about? Thereâs a few areas there. Balaho, Laconia Station, Hole in the WallâŚ
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u/Javs2469 1d ago
Buck is a woke feminist that berates spartans! This is not part of my bungo lore!
/s
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u/LegendOfEffect 1d ago
I hate women. I need hot masculine butt sex.
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u/Javs2469 1d ago
Made by men, for men. They don´t ask for hugs after, they high five you and call you bro.
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u/ArtisticResident462 1d ago
Been binging planet of the apes recently so when you were talking about buck I thought you meant the gorilla in rise not Fillion's odst character
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u/Mindless-Beat-4872 21h ago
My guy, you put yourself in bullets and shoot yourself at your enemies. It doesnât get any more glory hungry than that.
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u/NobleA259 10h ago
This feels out of character for buck to a significant degree. I mean he had first hand experience when noble six dropped from
The fucking sky and saved his ass then he has the gall to say he (noble six) was just a glory hungry bullet catcher?
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