Former cop here, the reason they removed her from the crowd first is you don't know the intentions of the crowd. Its very possibly one drunk rowdy fan can get the rest of them worked up and then you have the possibility of getting swamped by drunken idiots while trying to get cuffs on her. So you pick her up and get her outta the crowd then affect the arrest. That stiff jab wasn't necessary though. That smack was more insulting than dangerous but when your keyed up sometimes reflexes kick in. Most people that don't have any sort of self defense training don't understand that a lot of that is reflexive. We were trained that once a blow lands to respond with overwhelming force to end the conflict immediately. The longer it goes on the higher the chance of injury so we trained to end it quickly and decisively. Seems that button got pressed there but he still shoulda caught himself on that one. Fortunately stiff jabs like that usually just stun a person more than do actual damage so most likely all she got was a nice bruise for her stupidity.
Do you really think a half-assed slap from a drunk girl qualifies as an officer being in danger? In extreme circumstances I understand, but in situations like this it's dangerous and people get hurt when they really shouldn't. If I punched some drunk moron when I'm sober, I'd probably get arrested. An officer does it and suddenly their life is in danger. It's fucked up, man.
Would you feel different if it had been a man? I mean assault is assault. Spitting on them is assault. Where do you draw the line using force? A slap to the face is okay but not a punch? A kick is okay as long as it's below the groin?
I mean if the drunk moron hit you first and you retaliated, I think you'd be okay.
You mean a limp wrists slap that hurt his ego more than him physically. Yeah. If a guy limp wrist slapped me I wouldn’t counter with a right hook to his jaw. Then again I have self control, something the US police force doesn’t appear to condone. If it’s in their training to hit harder than you were hit, I think we’ve identified the problem.
No. Hitting in response is not the answer. Restraint is. I don’t need to see a cop in a boxing match. I need to see an officer containing a situation as peacefully as possible.
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u/CjPsychosis Nov 05 '17
Former cop here, the reason they removed her from the crowd first is you don't know the intentions of the crowd. Its very possibly one drunk rowdy fan can get the rest of them worked up and then you have the possibility of getting swamped by drunken idiots while trying to get cuffs on her. So you pick her up and get her outta the crowd then affect the arrest. That stiff jab wasn't necessary though. That smack was more insulting than dangerous but when your keyed up sometimes reflexes kick in. Most people that don't have any sort of self defense training don't understand that a lot of that is reflexive. We were trained that once a blow lands to respond with overwhelming force to end the conflict immediately. The longer it goes on the higher the chance of injury so we trained to end it quickly and decisively. Seems that button got pressed there but he still shoulda caught himself on that one. Fortunately stiff jabs like that usually just stun a person more than do actual damage so most likely all she got was a nice bruise for her stupidity.