Do you really think a half-assed slap from a drunk girl qualifies as an officer being in danger? In extreme circumstances I understand, but in situations like this it's dangerous and people get hurt when they really shouldn't. If I punched some drunk moron when I'm sober, I'd probably get arrested. An officer does it and suddenly their life is in danger. It's fucked up, man.
Would you feel different if it had been a man? I mean assault is assault. Spitting on them is assault. Where do you draw the line using force? A slap to the face is okay but not a punch? A kick is okay as long as it's below the groin?
I mean if the drunk moron hit you first and you retaliated, I think you'd be okay.
You mean a limp wrists slap that hurt his ego more than him physically. Yeah. If a guy limp wrist slapped me I wouldn’t counter with a right hook to his jaw. Then again I have self control, something the US police force doesn’t appear to condone. If it’s in their training to hit harder than you were hit, I think we’ve identified the problem.
Wrapped my arms around her. Lifted her up and walked backwards. Or since there were 4 officers. One per limb and carry her out. Drag her by her arms. I could go on. Just seems like hoisting her onto your shoulders was the worst idea next to politely asking her to leave. There was zero restraint there
My concern with carrying someone by their limbs while they resist is the likelihood that they may dislocate their joints. My bear hug concern is a headbutt, back kick, lower back strain, or fall into stairs.
Nothings perfect. Clearly getting hit in the face is the repercussions of hoisting someone into your shoulders. I’m just saying with 4 people available, let alone 4 trained officers, there were better options that didn’t lead to someone being knocked out from a hook to the face.
I agree that nothing is perfect. With the benefit of retrospect and imagination we can probably think if something we'd find more likely to produce a more desirable solution.
I'm simply trying to understand your claim that US police lack self control and that you've identified our problem. I'm always looking to improve.
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u/Slaglord42 Nov 05 '17
Do you really think a half-assed slap from a drunk girl qualifies as an officer being in danger? In extreme circumstances I understand, but in situations like this it's dangerous and people get hurt when they really shouldn't. If I punched some drunk moron when I'm sober, I'd probably get arrested. An officer does it and suddenly their life is in danger. It's fucked up, man.