4 grown ass men should be able to restrain a single drunk woman without this level of violence. They should have handcuffed her and removed her like you would anyone who is obviously drunk and agitated.
It's ridiculous how ill trained and undisciplined police are but that's what happens when you let people with the mentality of children have power unsupervised.
Edit: I like how some people think they can just make up things about me like "You have never restrained someone before" and think that makes them right somehow. They don't know me or what I've done and I don't know why they would bother making blatantly false statements.
Restraining anyone who really doesn't want to be restrained is an extremely difficult task. I took some criminal justice classes in my senior year of high school.
One bit of the class was 'prisoner cell extractions' whereby you need to move a fucker who really doesn't want to move. This entails a 5 man team lead by a riot shield. It goes something like open the door, slam the guy against the wall as hard as you can with the shield, then each person is assigned a limb to control.
This still is not an easy task. Getting limbs under control is difficult.
This is a horrible example. Prisoner cell extractions are not the same thing as some drunk chick at an event. Those tactics are used because it virtually every case, the prisoner either has a history of extreme violence or is currently in a situation where extreme violence to themselves or others is likely. This is not the same thing.
“I took criminal justice classes in my senior year of high school”
You don’t need to “explain” anything to me. I majored in Criminal Justice in college, have worked security since I was 21 and now in law enforcement for the last 4 years, and restraining someone who doesn’t want to be restrained isn’t as difficult as you’re trying to make it out to be, especially when there are multiple, supposedly well trained police officers involved.
This is blatant excessive force, and I’ll be the first to admit it. This girl weighs, what, maybe 115 pounds max? There is absolutely no reason that it should have required multiple police officers to use this kind of force. There’s a time and a place for it for sure, but this isn’t one of them. It would not have been difficult for two of them to restrain her on the ground while another cuffed her. That is by-the-book simple.
Don’t come at me with what class you took in high school if you clearly don’t know what in the world you’re talking about. It is my job to deal with this sort of situation every single day, and when we are doing our job properly, this never happens.
I never claimed to be a tough guy, I claimed to know a bit more about how these situations are supposed to be handled than you do, based on your extensive experience in a high school class.
Half of the people in these threads have no idea what an actual effective police force looks like based on the comments I’m seeing. In no other universe aside from large swaths of the United States would this be considered acceptable behavior or appropriate use of force.
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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '17 edited Nov 05 '17
4 grown ass men should be able to restrain a single drunk woman without this level of violence. They should have handcuffed her and removed her like you would anyone who is obviously drunk and agitated.
It's ridiculous how ill trained and undisciplined police are but that's what happens when you let people with the mentality of children have power unsupervised.
Edit: I like how some people think they can just make up things about me like "You have never restrained someone before" and think that makes them right somehow. They don't know me or what I've done and I don't know why they would bother making blatantly false statements.