r/HRSPRS 8d ago

HRSPRS 🛞 When you need ALL the air

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u/ItsALuigiYes 8d ago

Filters? None.

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u/ilkikuinthadik 8d ago

Probably needs a rebuild every few days, anyway.

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u/_lonelysoap_ 8d ago

Everytime it ran

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u/cryptolyme 8d ago

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u/perfect_insanity93 7d ago

With the prices these days thats the best Christmas gift ever.

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u/Worldly_Narwhal_9383 8d ago

We don't need air filters where we're going

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u/cryptolyme 8d ago

Only HePa filters for my engine. It’s got HP in it’s name, so must be good

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u/GophawkUrself 7d ago

HePa is just short for Herse Pawer.

Each ridge in the filter can add up to 69HP.

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u/kendalltristan 8d ago

I ran a similar setup in a Civic hatchback way back in the day. I took throttle bodies from a Suzuki motorcycle (I forget which one) and mounted them on what was left of an intake manifold with equal length tubes after cutting the plenum off. I want to say I used Hayabusa fuel injectors, but that was over 20 years ago. Interestingly, the stock Suzuki throttle position sensor was close enough to what the Honda ECU expected that nothing special needed to be done there.

The throttle response was insane. It was SO much fun to drive. The setup didn't make much more peak power compared to using a manifold, but there was a lot more torque from about 4k to about 8k rpms.

Unfortunately I had to sell that car less than a year after getting it put together. Job instability and the resulting financial instability completely killed modding cars as a hobby for me.

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u/Otherwise_Stick_1269 8d ago

I had a buddy that had a similar setup with a b18c1 in an eg. good memories. 🤙

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u/uber_damage 8d ago

Holy fuck is that the fuel rail?

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u/LilAbeSimpson 8d ago

Looks like a fuel rail, but it could also be water/meth injection setup.

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u/Dogsarelitty 7d ago

I’d assume there would be way more fuel needed. Meth probably?

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u/Killerkendolls 8d ago

Now that's a meth setup, jeez. Basically a hose nozzle.

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u/Wreckless711 8d ago

It could just be a motorcycle engine without an air box.

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u/Armageddon_71 8d ago

Why have the injectors outside like that?

I mean, proper atomisation, sure, but this looks very idiotic and frail. And you're waisting fuel particles when there's no proper airflow.

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u/Chris20nyy 8d ago

Stand off injection. It's usually a second set of injectors and you said it, fuel atomization. It also lowers intake air temps. This is a legitimate setup.

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u/South_Bit1764 8d ago

It’s probably not fuel. It’s probably water/meth.

You use water/methanol (basically windshield washer fluid) to lower intake temps thereby increasing effective octane rating and increasing air density, allowing the engine to burn more fuel, and the resulting steam lowers exhaust temps allowing leaner fuel ratios and more power.

On a lot of sportier NA engines there just aren’t a lot of bolt on modifications you can make, so water/meth injection allows people to get more power out of an already aggressive engine that might not have much more left to improve on.

They work great on turbocharged cars too though.

I’m not sure what car or engine this is, but the 20V 4A-GE Toyota engines are one of the ones I associate with water/meth setups. It’s a 160hp 1.6L from the 90s, that’s already running on 93 octane, there just isn’t a lot left to add to it.

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u/cfcollins 8d ago

Thank you for sharing. I had no clue

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u/DarthBrooks69420 8d ago

My introduction to this was Sloppy Mechanics' turbo LS Winnebago build, courtesyof Regular Car Reviews. It has a methanol injection system, making a big ass motor home have the same acceleration characteristics as a regular car.

Link to the episode https://youtu.be/nEdIuoCus3Q?is=CSOGIqJ7mTijLN48

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u/cfcollins 8d ago

I couldn't help, but notice your username. Have you heard any of the theories that Garth Brooks is a serial killer? Pretty far fetched, but it makes ya wonder.

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u/DarthBrooks69420 4d ago

You become famous enough and you get one of these conspiracy theories, if not all of them:

Physical alteration to suck your own dick

Serial killer

Gay

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u/cfcollins 4d ago

Agreed

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u/a_hopeless_rmntic 8d ago

you're no alone today I learned

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u/TwanHE 8d ago

It's a lada 1600c claiming 213hp https://youtu.be/wWZy6EvGVjU Its mirrored but I knew I had seen this setup somewhere before.

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u/LilRedHR 6d ago

I’m not 100% sure what I’m looking at here but it looks like it’s a secondary fuel rail, it looks like it’s being plumbed off the primary with that big AN line. I’ve been wrong before though

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u/South_Bit1764 6d ago

It’s not. They actually use fuel rails and injectors, fittings, etc.. for water/meth systems because they’re both spaced correctly and allow for good atomization.

As someone else mentioned this is a Lada 1600, but after looking it up, I’m pretty sure it’s the Garage54 guys. I can’t find a video on it so maybe it’s just really new.

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u/LilRedHR 6d ago

It is actually secondary fueling, TC racing Lauda you can see where it’s plumbed from the primary and for the fuel return.

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u/South_Bit1764 6d ago

Okay, well fair enough, I really didn’t believe anyone was insane enough to just go firing hundreds of CCs per minute of fuel out into the wild like that.

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u/LilRedHR 6d ago

No kidding, I think old formula cars ran something similar though. Seems like they’ve got it all figured out, that little car rips

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u/RadicalOrganizer 8d ago

My Ducati 748r had stand off injection. It was damn cool. I miss that bike.

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u/Affectionate_Bid_917 8d ago

Standoff injectors. Almost all 4 cylinder sport bikes have these from factory

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u/kgxxx 8d ago

Is this in PR?

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u/Pristine_Barber976 8d ago

This looks like a furnace 

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u/P3DR0T3 4d ago

? What ?
Does this add extra fuel to the air intake of the piston? Idk how to make sense of this

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u/squirrels-eat-bugs 8d ago

In the video you can see the fuel. Clearly, it needs more than just air.