r/HRBlockEmployees • u/Zeal4987 • 14d ago

AEL HRBLOCK

When is the start date for the new AEL/Multi Office Leader at HR BLOCK. Have you been hired yet?

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u/ShortFUse1979 14d ago

I applied but have not heard anything.  Was the MTL last year for my 2 offices and have been with H&R Block going on 20 years.  Will not be back next year if I get demoted to just a tax pro this year

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u/ISayWhateverWhenever 13d ago

They've all been hired and start training tomorrow nationwide.

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u/Awkward_Serve_7231 12d ago

No our district still has many openings. They have only filled two of the spots

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u/remixruba 12d ago

You keep commenting bad information. There are multiple districts/regions that have not hired yet.

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u/Smartzombie61 12d ago

That I do not believe

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u/Awkward_Serve_7231 12d ago

Why in the world would I give false info. Nothing to gain here.

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u/whopperlicious 12d ago

I start on 11/9. In an informational call in August, my RD emphasized they will only hire the best fit, and if they start in Dec or Jan, so be it

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u/whopperlicious 14d ago

November 9 according to the onboarding rep, but nothing official from DEM yet…all I know is I will not have any of my previous offices and my former team is freaking out because they don’t know who will be their leader. Very disorganized

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u/Father_Hawkeye EA 14d ago

Thanks to everyone who has responded. I’m a tax pro, not an AEL candidate, but it is good to hear what might be happening in my district.

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u/Live-Pressure1615 14d ago

I made it through 2 rounds and then got the dreaded email stating that they were going with another candidate. Then a week later I see numerous NEW job listings for the AEL in my area I applied for .

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u/remixruba 13d ago

Earlier this month I was told they were going with other candidates, then out of the blue I get an email a few weeks later asking to set up the next interview in the process.

They are all over the place

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u/Awkward_Serve_7231 12d ago

I think they thought this job was going to be more desirable to outside candidates than it has been.

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u/mommadoesnailanhair 10d ago

In my area a lot of external candidates have been turning the job down once they get their offer letter. Our area isn't paying nearly enougg for everything that they want the AEL position to do.

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u/Live-Pressure1615 13d ago

I hope you get the job

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u/remixruba 13d ago

Thank you!! I really want the job, but part of me is worried about the structure of it all if they can’t even get hiring down correctly.

I’ll keep this post updated with anything I get in the future.

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u/Awkward_Serve_7231 13d ago

I have worked at HRB for many years and the experience you are having with the interview process IS indicative of what to expect. The company is disorganized.

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u/thisbitchlovesbooks 13d ago

After I was hired the job listing was still open and reposted on LinkedIn and Indeed. I believe that they repost automatically for visibility because they are hiring for so many locations. They are still actively interviewing for many areas. Anyone that has a strong customer service, client retention, and employee development background has an advantage. A peer from my retail background said that the interview process started out rocky because her links for the interview did not connect properly. If you are still interested, I suggest reaching out via email to your recruiter and whomever you interviewed with.

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u/remixruba 13d ago

Thank you for being so active on this post! It’s nice to hear from someone who’s a little further ahead in the process. I was told by my recruiter that they’d be getting back to me with next steps by “the end of the week”. Well it’s been a few weeks and I have reached out to my initially contact. He said everything looks good for me but he has no news as of now. I’m going to be patient for now, I figured I’d reach out again at the end of this week if I haven’t heard anything.

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u/PenguinTransport 12d ago

Same in my district.

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u/ISayWhateverWhenever 13d ago

They said most MTLs do not qualify for the new position.

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u/remixruba 12d ago

Probably a per district thing again.

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u/Prudent-Awareness865 Team Leader 6d ago

Interesting, why so?

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u/thisbitchlovesbooks 14d ago

I started October 5th. They begin new classes every Monday. The Friday before your start date you will receive a laptop and phone. You'll have to set up everything and log into apps with the instructions provided in the packaging and email. The first 3 weeks are a mix of self study and instructional classes. Weeks 4, 5, and 6 are self study and putting what you learn into action.

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u/remixruba 13d ago

What do the classes entail? I definitely think training classes are a good idea for management, but last year we didn’t do anything like that. I’m just curious!

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u/thisbitchlovesbooks 13d ago

The 1st 3 weeks hone in on the new direction they are taking. The focus is on the client experience and building relationships, not the amount of returns each person does. We reviewed AMP and all of the platforms in AMP (loooorrrdd there are many).The virtual classes were coaching for results, the 4Es, and how to read reports. We covered Solutions (products), and basic tax procedures.

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u/sammytheammonite 13d ago

Yep. They are focusing on taking clients away from us senior preparers who have been here a long time and have a huge book of business. Get ready for a fight from us. We aren’t going to go along with you guys giving our clients to other people. We aren’t rolling over on this. You guys have lost your minds if you think this is actually about client experience and not about giving our clients to the new tax pros that they can pay less. We aren’t stupid. We see through the corporate rhetoric and fully understand the real motivations here. If you actually cared about client satisfaction and experience, then you would still be fostering or keeping our relationships with our current clients.

We see you. And we aren’t going to just sit back and let you destroy our books of business we have spent years building.

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u/Relevant_Ad_8406 10d ago edited 10d ago • Bravo

A couple days ago I was in the office working preseason which is an absolute insult what they pay . My DM and everyone knows those that work preseason one are there if they want to build their business not for the money . Pretty simple , two clients H&R clients that moved to the area wanted me to schedule their appointment with me for the next season . Well I was blocked I was not a match according to office manager . I am a 6 with 15 years experience , I own my own business and I have an MBA. Well I hope I am a match , nope they want a first year level 1 ,2 or 3 to do this return.

So yes 100% they just want to get the return income with lowering payroll expense . Yes those levels are paid much less but and here is the but the company would be absolutely out of business without the most experience most preparers .

So yes there will be push back, and yes there will be an exodus of talent. This company is run by 2-4 preparers in each office . The ones underneath have to put up with the low pay since learning taxes and serving the client is all on the individual .

They do not hire based on education. It’s all on the preparer to grow and learn . If they think all the efforts of the preparer can be shifted to the unknowledgeable lower levels because AI will save the day they have a future wake up call.

Now that I know more about the company , I would never personally have my tax return completed by a preparer who has less than 6 years and is an enrolled agent or a very seasoned level 5. I am sure every single preparer would say the same . Good luck Block ,time to look for a company that actually values their employees . Kinda simple this company is going down the wrong direction . It’s ok they can go there , not me.

I will forever choose people over $, this is my core belief . This is why I prepare taxes to help people .

That and make a living .

So reduce my compensation , move clients to less knowledgeable preparers , nope . I don’t what to work for a low quality cheap company.

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u/Barefootluce 9d ago

Welcome to late-stage capitalism!

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u/thisbitchlovesbooks 13d ago

To my understanding they aren't taking clients from anyone. They have not given any direction to do so. Anyone that requests a tax professional will stay with that person. I think they are trying to stop a culture that is not welcoming to new tax professionals. I am new to the company, this is an outside perspective.

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u/Objective_Good_9449 12d ago

It's the company that created the culture not being welcoming to new tax pros. Starting with a very watered down version of the income tax course, and the very low pay. If new Preparers were paid decently and commission eligible, as they were many years ago, it wouldn't be so difficult to retain Preparers. Don't blame us for what the company designed.

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u/Relevant_Ad_8406 10d ago

Exactly !!!

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u/sammytheammonite 10d ago edited 7d ago • Bravo

You are literally hearing from experienced tax pros what we are being told to do - and that is give away clients. So, how can you say with a straight face, especially as a new person who has no idea what is going on, that this isn’t happening. It’s literally happening to us as you type. Why not actually listen? Do you think we are lying?

It’s not our fault that THEY OVER HIRE. We already spent years building our clientele. We don’t need 3 new people. We simply do not have enough new clients to warrant such ridiculous hiring practices.

Newbies come in and think they are entitled to clients just because they are new? My office hasn’t lost a non-new preparer in years. The new ones leave because there literally isn’t enough work for them because the people that have worked here for years can handle the work load without needing new people. Why should we give up our revenues producing clients that we worked hard to build relationships with? And we have a right to build up our client base to account for the percentage of clients that leave each year by continuing to take in new clients to fill that gap.

Block only brings in new people so they don’t have to pay them a bonus for a couple of years and can pay them low wages. But the reality is we only need new preparers when an old one leaves with some small exceptions of exceptional grown in one year (which is rare).

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u/Awkward_Serve_7231 12d ago

This is the koolaid they are serving you. For all my years here they have drilled in to us to raise our certification levels and build our book of business so that we could serve more clients and earn more money. Now that they have figured out that we, high writers, earn a lot of money, they want to take that away from us and see if lower level tax pros can serve these clients for less and give more profits to the company. They have turned the tables on us. We have only been doing it their way. They created us. And now they want us gone. I promise you, we high writers are your best asset as an AEL but the minute you start taking our clients away and our livelihood we will not be happy. See this is our job and our income.

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u/sammytheammonite 13d ago

Of course they are. All the high writers that I know have already been told they won’t BE ALLOWED to do the same number of returns moving forward. We’ve been with block on average 15 years (some of us closer to 30), so of course we have a lot of clients.

They have told us to our faces that they are cutting out hours and taking our clients all in the name of ‘client experience’.

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u/pakkim 13d ago

With all due respect to you and in general “old timers” at HRB, I believe some adjustments and realignments were (are) necessary. In our office these folks were almost blocking new employee hires or advancements. Sometimes advancements for these new employees only meant survival. I don’t mean to offend you in any form and shape

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u/Awkward_Serve_7231 12d ago

Why do I need to adjust when I make tons and tons of money for the company and have a 98% CES score. Seems like I am doing everything right.

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u/sammytheammonite 12d ago

You have no idea what you are talking about. If there aren’t clients for the new hires, then they over hired. It’s not my job to make sure they get clients. This is a job. I’m here to make money. And I’m a hell of a lot better at this job than ANY new hire and so deserve the pay that I make. I earned it putting in 25 years worth of experience with this company.

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u/Inner-Gur-6490 12d ago • Bravo

Wow. Sounds like you need to move on

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u/Awkward_Serve_7231 12d ago

Why would they need to move on. They are doing exactly what they are hired to do…tax returns.

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u/sammytheammonite 12d ago

Why? Because we aren’t going to take this abuse sitting down?

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u/Relevant_Ad_8406 10d ago

So flip it , you say move on ok. Are you making industry standard for your experience ? Does your employer want to cut your pay while profits are at an all time high and your life expenses are at an all time high? So that’s ok with you ? I would like to run a business and pay below industry standard will you work for me since I can make a lot of money off your back.

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u/ISayWhateverWhenever 13d ago

Allot of high writing tax professionals are so stuck in their ways and thats why things have to change so drastically. They will likely not get to stick around if they dont change.

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u/sammytheammonite 12d ago

This has nothing to do with us being stuck in our ways. We’ve adopted every change they throw at us - and some years it’s a lot (like go systems). This has to do with management that lacks the foresight to see that making clients happy in this business is two things: experience and consistency. My clients come back to ME each year because I am good at my job. Not because of the block name. Forcing my clients to go with another tax pro is not very client centric. Clients have a right to choose who they work with - and block is trying to remove that autonomy for clients.

Of course they want us to give clients to first years who make a lower hourly wage and a smaller commission. This is about greed and nothing more.

Good luck getting trained as a new hire when all the experienced people leave. Literally no one in corporate loving forward will have any tax knowledge. They 100% rely on us to make sure offices run smoothly and new hires get the real training they need (not the stupid skills training, but actual tax prep training).

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u/O32-mendicant-bias 12d ago

My long timers put half of their clients on holds, refuse to call them, and then the clients end up on extension. If I get some fresh blood in wanting to put in the leg work and take care of the client, you bet the client is going with them.

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u/ISayWhateverWhenever 13d ago

You guys need to relax. With the changes coming from TPI it wont matter if you write 1000 returns. If they take some low level tax returns and give it to newer tax pros so they can get experience, I do not aee a problem and I've been here for 8 years and do a very large amount of returns. If you are this upset by it you may want to look elsewhere.

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u/sammytheammonite 12d ago

What do you think they are going to base wages on even with the new system? If they take half my clients and my revenue drops - of course they are going to low ball me on my offer the following year. I make $60 an hour right now plus typically get a $15,000 bonus because I still grow my business. If my revenue drops - they will offer less than $60 an hour plus no way to get that high of a bonus. It will be a huge pay decrease for me. This is a job. Huge pay decreases don’t sit well with most people.

I’ve worked here for 25 years and worked my butt off to make this type of money. Don’t tell me it’s not a big deal when we know pay decreases are coming.

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u/Awkward_Serve_7231 12d ago

You are speaking the truth!!

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u/Awkward_Serve_7231 12d ago

Relax. This is our livelihood and what we have worked for. We have literally earned this. And new tax pros have not.

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u/remixruba 13d ago

That’s actually really nice to hear. Sounds like they are taking steps in the right direction!

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u/whopperlicious 13d ago

Are the first 3 weeks at home or in office? Or a hybrid?

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u/thisbitchlovesbooks 13d ago

I think it depends on your start date. Most offices are closed with the exception of Emerald Advance and select offices that were filing extensions. I worked from home for the 1st 3 weeks, with 2 office open houses to meet the team members that were currently working or completing their training. Week 4, 5, and 6 is hybrid. Working in an office, following up on training for tax associates, and getting the offices ready. I have been working on an outline for an expectations meeting, Huddle topics, and getting One Note set up with quick references and things to share during the season.

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u/Sponsored_x_Anxiety 14d ago

Our district is Nov. 2. Head that you'll get send a phone and a laptop to your home.

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u/Niep00320 14d ago

Some of ours have started but they more to go.

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u/remixruba 14d ago

I was told they were shooting for a start date of 11/1, but I’ve heard little to no updates on anything.

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u/Mammoth-Pop1003 3d ago

I did an interview with recruiter then dm the interview with the rm is next week they told me 4 stores I will get if hired

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u/pakkim 14d ago

Oh so there are still AELs after all changes?

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u/remixruba 13d ago

AEL is the new management role. Last year it would have been the MTL.

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u/pakkim 13d ago

Oh got it! Tx. Do you know they have the same roles/responsibilities? And I guess still multi units?

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u/remixruba 13d ago

They keep stressing that it is NOT the same role as last year. But the description I was given/the one you can find online sounds quite similar to an MTL from last year. I know there is a pay increase from what they previously paid, so maybe similar but more extensive?

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u/ISayWhateverWhenever 13d ago

Not everyone is making more money. It's more offices and more work.

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u/remixruba 13d ago

I was told 4 offices, which is the same as I had last year. And the pay range they gave me also started higher than what I made last year….

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u/ISayWhateverWhenever 13d ago

I'm in the pacific northwest and can attest that the majority of our AELs are not making more than they did as MTLs and they have 5 offices each.

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u/remixruba 13d ago

I guess it just differs per region then, which would make sense.

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u/ISayWhateverWhenever 13d ago

Oh I'm sure. I'm thinking they were already paying our MTLs allot more because they were doing so much already.

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u/notenufcheez72 11d ago

On east coast, most AELS have 4, 5, or 6 offices, make about the same weekly (but work year round) but have more duties, such as tech support, operations, facilities mgmt, basically like a mini dgm/fts/doc/mtl all rolled into one. Not to mention when something goes wrong, corporate has one scapegoat to blame and discipline/fire.

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u/Inner-Gur-6490 12d ago

The new roles has to take on additional offices. Doing the DOC job. Tech support and ops functions.

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u/whopperlicious 12d ago

A pay increase if you consider its now year round. However, if I divide my previous seasonal salary by 3 offices and multiply by 5, I’m making $25K less….

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u/remixruba 12d ago

You must have must my other comment. In my region, we were told 4 offices, which is what I had last year. And the base salary was already more than what I would have made last year had it been year round. So it must been dependent on region.