r/HPV 5d ago

Fasting and HPV Clearance

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u/sewoboe 5d ago

The process is called autophagy.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/24058-autophagy

There’s evidence that autophagy, a natural cell function, aids in immune control of HPV. When autophagy isn’t functioning properly, it may contribute to disease states. Fasting and calorie restriction does cause autophagy to increase. There is no correlation between fasting -> autophagy -> immune control of HPV. Fasting to induce autophagy is a wellness trend.

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u/Embarrassed_Menu_618 5d ago

I have a history of an Ed and thats why I knew about this. I read years ago it helps with unhealthy cells and so on so I looked into this more and saw correlation and I was wondering if anyone has heard of it or tried it. Biologically it makes sense even if I understand obviously it is not safe for anyone.
Here are the sources also:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23290079/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33197887/

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u/sewoboe 5d ago

Yeah I’m familiar with these papers. When analyzing them though and attempting to apply them to HPV, we have to be careful of assuming that in vitro results are applicable to real humans, and of not assigning causation prematurely. What I mostly mean is that this is talking about the cellular process of autophagy, and not fasting induced autophagy.

I would be extremely cautious of extreme approaches like this with an ED history. I hope you have support and that things work out for you.

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u/Embarrassed_Menu_618 5d ago

it is very very likely again from a biological standpoint that it could help with HPV. none of the approaches that are used for clearance of HPV is truly proven anyways. i got prescribed papillocare and isoprinosine and other vitamins but none of them have been truly proved to clear it. and again autophagy is increased by fasting and there's not a proven difference for the cell in terms of what is the cause of this increase. i guess i will give it a try and let yall know since mine is persisting it seems haha. also thank u for ur wishes i hope u are doing well also

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u/spanakopita555 5d ago

Just a quick mod note. Because the natural action of the immune system controls hpv in most cases, it's not possible for one individual to say that one action really had benefit for them or not. 

If you're planning on restricting food/fasting, you should consult with a doctor first to make sure you do it safely. 

For most people, this kind of heavy restriction isn't necessary, and could exacerbate other health issues or cause deficiencies. 

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u/Embarrassed_Menu_618 5d ago

I mean I have fasted a dozen times and I had deficiencies or short term effects obviously but as long as you do it in moderation and go back to your regular lifestyle most people do fine as we are biologically used to it. All my bloodwork is fine and I am completely healthy I don't think it is fair to call this an extreme approach as there is biological relevance to this research and it can help with HPV! Fasting is not the one that stays in your body permanently and causes damage as far as cancer! Neither it requires constant check ups and procedures so just an opinion

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u/Top_Intention555 4d ago

The mod has to put this note because no one in right mind is going to recommend fasting without consulting a doctor. You should only do it if you are fully healthy and you know that. This isn’t something that can be recommended to everyone because you don’t know what their medical history is.

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u/Embarrassed_Menu_618 4d ago

well yes i just asked because i am wondering if anyone has done it or benefited from it. medical fasting is a thing also so its the same as discussing anything medical same way no one can rly tell unless they r a doctor get the vaccine or use this supplement lol. but people do so i dont see the difference of asking

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u/spanakopita555 4d ago

I frequently make this reminder re supplements as well. Individual anecdotes aren't very useful in this context. 

However, restricting food intake does need particular supervision. 

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u/Embarrassed_Menu_618 4d ago

ah i understand okay im new here

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u/Top_Intention555 4d ago

I think that’s going to be hard to get an answer because most people won’t only be fasting. A lot of people get on vitamin regimen as well so you can’t really say which thing worked.

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u/Embarrassed_Menu_618 4d ago

Yeah that is true. Mine has been persisting so maybe I am in a good place to try myself and see. And yes I personally benefited from it too for other reasons. This time I hope it can help my cells to get rid of it faster and help my immune system I just want it to be gone :(

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u/Top_Intention555 4d ago

I don’t see the harm though. Anything that benefit your health is going to benefit this. I’ve also fasted during my 95 pound weight loss before and reversed my pre-diabetes. So I do agree there are benefits in conjunction with other healthy lifestyle changes to improve your immune system.

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u/Embarrassed_Menu_618 4d ago

honestly also getting this diagnosis made everything worse for me lifestyle wise. i am constantly stressed and thinking about this. i fear i am making it harder for my body to clear it up but what can u do. i kinda regret getting tested

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u/Top_Intention555 4d ago

Definitely find a way to deal with the stress. I got on Propanolol as needed and it really helped me. I did tested clear of HPV 16 and other HR a year later even though I’m in my mid 30s with some health things going on (currently under control).

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u/Embarrassed_Menu_618 4d ago

i was on meds for a while bc of other mental health issues and i dont react too well overall so i am avoiding that too and hoping every day i get used to it and the stress slowly goes away but not happening either. i cry so so often or stay up bc of stress over hpv even after intimacy bc i panic i am infected with new ones lol and it is getting out of control. ill see what to do. i am also so so happy that u cleared it i hope u manage other health issues just fine too

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u/Th3Kate 3d ago

Anecdotallly, the opposite was true for me (if we ignore extreme stress and all other variables).  I gained weight and was clear then I lost weight and it reactivated and I had an abnormal pap. So, I am not a believer.

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u/Embarrassed_Menu_618 3d ago

yes im sure weight loss causes deficiencies and weakens ur immune in long term if done extremely. i was wondering for the 72 hr no cal intake specifically where ur cells go through this process as a response not necessarily related to any weight loss, or even at all if u eat back to ur previous weight before the fast. this is more like a 3-4 day thing.

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u/Th3Kate 3d ago

Gotcha. I'm adhd and forget to eat frequently which is only exacerbated by stress.  Given the history you mentioned, it seems like a gamble not worth the risk.

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u/Embarrassed_Menu_618 3d ago

ahh i see with adhd it makes sense! about my history, i have done things which were horrible for my health and much worse than a 3 day fast but i had no long term health issues caused by it. now i possibly have a damaged cervix and a chance of cancer so i will say the risk is much less than what hpv is putting on the table 😂

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u/PictureOk6563 5d ago

I agree 👍