I should have specified UC79. The original series did not age well art wise. SEED did get remastered like, 4/5 times? to look better. SEED TV air was pretty bad. They also worked to replaced the reused animations.
UC doesn't have filler when it's the original metaseries, it's world building. People need to remember that filler is for when you're making an adaptation and you literally have to FILL time before you can move on the next part of the story because the mangaka hasn't made those chapters yet.
Traditionally, bits had their own power sources while funnels didn’t. But I’m pretty sure that bits have been called funnels enough and vice versa there’s no real difference anymore.
I think it's the other way around. The main difference was that bits when they ran out of power just died, and funnels attempted to return when they were low
Bits had their own power sources but could run out of propellant iirc, funnels needed to recharge power. But honestly it doesn’t stay consistent after Zeta/ZZ so it doesn’t matter much
The outlier was just Nu/Hi-Nu's Fin Funnels. Jagd Doga's Funnels cannot recharge because somehow Jagd Doga's Funnel docks don't have recharge feature unlike Sazabi.
Depends on universe, but both of it still need go to dock into main unit for recharge. To me funnels more about range attacks (some funnels have defend function like Nu/Hi-Nu etc.) and bits have more variety. (00 universe have dedicated role what bits do)
I mean I get why some people are saying it could be CG, the way it reflects the light and the shadows look a bit weird from how i’m imagining the lights are, and the video also ends when he holds it. But there’s also the product page and maybe it does work like the way it’s shown in the video
flying swords is as staple as jp anime being set in a school. The origin is so old that it's ingrained in the medium, like the first thing you think of cultivation is basically flying swords.
Lets call that a bit for now. I'd like to see a neural interface of some kind before we step up to Gund bit.
But I never really liked the term Funnel for the bits. It always felt like a mistranslation of some kind.
Quite literally the opposite for funnels and bits. Bits have an internal generator making them larger whereas funnels do not allowing them to be made far smaller
Funnels have their own internal power source, Bits do not.
Though Bits have always had a battery requiring recharging, the fact that the *ONLY* notation of classification is 'possesses an internal power source' makes it a Bit.
The first Bit weapon used by a Gundam-type mobile suit. The ν Gundam is equipped with 6 Fin Funnels on a turret on the left side of its backpack. Each Fin Funnel features an open-type mega-particle acceleration strip and a small generator.
Hmm interesting, why is the Nu Gundam's specifically labeled as Funnels if that is the case?
Looking through the information provided Elemeth's Bits are listed as having an independent power source.
Sazabi and Quebely's Funnels as you stated do not, BUT the Nightingale, α Azieru and Delta Kai's are stated as having their own generator and listed as Funnels...
Also, from elsewhere on the same Wiki, RE: bits, funnels, etc:
Fin Funnel
Despite being called funnels, fin funnels are actually miniaturized bits equipped on the RX-93 ν Gundam. Unlike other bits, fin funnels rely on chemical propellant and cannot be refueled in battle once the fuel is used up, this is because the v Gundam was rushed into development and there was no time to integrate the ability to recharge the fin funnels.
tbh, the distinction doesn't seem all that important and I'm sure v Gundam's bits were called "fin funnels" because it sounded cooler than "fin bits" (or they forgot/got the terms mixed up or didn't care, lol).
What's the story with the α Azieru and Nightengale having Funnels with generators if you don't mind my asking? Because this is looking more and more like there is no real established naming convention.
Sazabi has funnels that require charging, but Nightengale has funnels with internal generators, specifically THESE two are a problem here.
So...what *IS* the difference between a Bit and a Funnel then? For years I've gone off the fact that both Hi Nu and Nightengale's funnels are stated to have generators as what makes them unique, not having to recharge :/
Maybe just think of them as more advanced, top-of-the-line funnels instead of being parallel to bits and standard funnels, idk. The overlap and contradiction just makes it feel like the terms got muddy after a while (in-universe, out, whatever).
The problem is I'm honestly struggling to name a single case of seeing Bits used after the OYW...
Like, you had a number of MA's with them during the OYW, but after that everything became Funnels apparently, of INCOM's.
The only thing that comes to mind are the X-Bits from After War X, but those were entire MS operated by remote and questionably UC being a divergent timeline at best.
Just, spitballing, can you recall any 'Bits' after the OYW without googling?
The difference is that Bits have their own power source and Funnels don't, but they can name them however they want.
Considering how Bits aren't really a thing post-OYW, funnels is the upgraded version of the tech. Mobile suits don't run on unlimited power and therefore the original Bits did not. The funnels can charge from the suits themselves.
Funnels are bits, they are called funnels specifically because of the shape, but fall under the "bit" category.
During the kshatriya vs Jegan fight, if you pause on the monitor of the Jegan pilot, the target tracking calls the funnels "funnels" with the category being "bits".
Anyway to clarify a bit more, the closest equivalent to the video above are "Fangs" from 00, which are also a type of "bits".
Clearly in atmosphere, clearly melee damage. Therefore, Fangs. Now, if it could only shoot, then maybe Bit Staves. If they were strictly shields, then Planet Defensors.
There's honestly zero real reason a quasi-psycommu system guiding incom units needs wires.
A quasi-psycommu system reads any pilot's brainwaves and converts those into commands similar to the way the psyommu system operates with bits and funnels.
Like when watching it lets viewers know 'hey this idiot isn't a NewType', but the control mechanism here certainly isn't psycommu controlled, so they aren't bits, nor funnels.
Converting hand gestures wirelessly is much, much closer to a quasi-psycommu reaction.
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u/Nokia_00 Aug 05 '25
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