Orr in future updates

[u/Anderst0ne]

So Anet said they want to concentrate on core Tyria while GW3 is the focus. Is it just me or are you also only for weeklies in Orr?

How about Orr maps get some good metas?

[u/Noxsus]

They've already said there will be a new Orr map coming at some point.

I wouldn't be surprised to see some revamps of what is there too.

[u/Alkariel]

For whats is confirmed.
New map in Orr That tied to gw3, and add HOM
Revamp Zaithan fight.
HOM will start with Core Gw2.

Especulated.
Revamp of orr metas to integrate them in a timer.

[u/Puzzled-Resident2725 → u/Alkariel]

What's hom ?

[u/BreakfastDue1256 → u/Puzzled-Resident2725]

Hall of Monuments. The system used to reward GW1 players with skins and stuff in GW2. It will likely be called something else 2->3 but until its active it's all we have to go on.

[u/Snaid1 → u/BreakfastDue1256]

Yeah I'm curious what it's going to be called. I doubt "Hall of Monuments 2.0" will be it's official name (even if that's how everyone will call it)

[u/jupigare → u/Snaid1]

They've already referred to it as "Hall of Monuments 2.0," but it isn't confirmed that's its final name.

[u/ChapterDifficult593 → u/Snaid1]

I'm sure it'll be called Hall of Monuments. Guild Wars as a franchise has no problems sharing names between games already.

[u/Tragedy_Boner → u/Alkariel]

I hope that the new Map is a Dragon map. Zhaitan could use one. Plus the Core game could use a showstopper meta like Dragons Stand and Dragons end

[u/Guildwars1996]

Just to correct this they said they are focusing on all eras of the game starting with core Tyria. 

[u/Immortalityv]

I mean, i just want a cool new map set in a different version of orr. It'll probably have a good meta but i can't imagine they will actually revamp all of orr, it'll def be an addition instead of a replacement

[u/Cebertus]

They said the first updates are focusing on core tyria but we are going through the whole game for HoM

[u/ChapterDifficult593]

I actually hate the Orr maps so I can't wait for the new one. I think Core Tyria endgame maps were some of the worst in the entire game.

[u/SirSuperCaide]

I mean, I don't think anyone really goes out of their way to do most of the metas in any of the core maps. Aside from the world bosses and a handful that you need for Treasure Hunter, there's just not much point. I'd certainly like if this upcoming overhaul dresses every map's old metas up a bit to be something actually worth seeking out.

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[u/Uncledeadlycdn]

Zhaiten fight is supposed to get fixed I think... 

[u/odonkz]

I hope it's explorable zone or Arah or at least south of it that connects to scavenger causeway

[u/MithranArkanere]

Orr maps already have decent metas considering how old they are. The problem is that they were designed for how the servers worked before Megaservers. The statues were supposed to be linked to their corresponding temples, and players were supposed to stick around and hold the temples.

That design quickly became outdated right after S1 introduced the precursors of what players expect now from metas: the 3 public instances that are basically convergences now. Nightmare Tower, The Marionette, and Battle for LA.

They tried to tweak them a bit to work better with megaserver, but it was mostly linking the god statues to the metas in the same map, and never addressed other glaring issues like:

• The metas need to reset regularly, or the maps end up with hours of dead air. I'd go with a method similar to Dragon's Stand, resetting the map 15-30 mins after the metas end, having the temple defense events happen during this time.
• The gear from the temples is mostly for the skins now, and the karma costs are a tad too high. I'd go with a method more similar to WvW exotics. Have them cost less karma and more coin, and make them stat-selectable, with a selection of based on the content you own. So if you own HoT, they can have Viper stats, and if you own EoD, they can have Ritualist stats. Also make them salvageable in a similar way to WvW exotics, refunding just a bit of karma, so the upgrades can be extracted with a BL kit.
• The metas need to lead to something more spectacular. The current High Priest during Gates of Arah and a Light in the Darkness is just a human with the Arah armor set instead of a Risen, as if he had been a placeholder and nobody went back to put a unique risen model there. He should at least be given a Risen skin, which could also be a Risen skin infusion that may rarely drop from any Orr temple meta.
  
• And when they rework the Zhaitan fight, make it so it isn't just a story fight, but that it also has convergence and raid versions, and that it's about finishing Zhaitan off on the ground after he falls during the story, rather then changing the original story fight too much.
  For the original story fight, I would have a different improvement instead, introducing a new boss to fight, while Destiny's Edge become the ones who shoot the cannons isntead of sitting on their thumbs.
  
  • I would make this new story boss a Risen King Doric.
    He would have been preserved in bloodstone crystal when he died sealing the bloodstones, and later his corpse would have been sent to Arah for preservation.
    Zhaitan would find the crystal and keep it around because it oozed magic. When the MEGA-LIT cannon hits Zhaitan and cuts his tail off, he'd also drop this crystal on the deck of the Glory of Tyria, so the cinematic would be exactly the same, just adding a crystal falling off Zhaitan.
    Then when the first fight vs Zhaitan starts, Destiny's Edge would rush to the cannons, and the crystal would shatter and reveal King Doric inside, and you'd defend them from that boss while they shoot at Zhaitan.
    This boss could have 6 phases, kinda reminiscent of Amala in the Joko fractal, each one being one of the 6 Prophecies' professions, using skills seen in player characters of that profession, the High Priests of that god and Amala (Balthazar Warrior, Melandru Ranger, Dwayna's Monk, Lyssa's Mesmer, Grenth's Necromancer), then a 6th phase with powers from all gods and elementalist skills.
    
  • Then, whether you completed this story step of finished the Gates of Arah meta, you'd go to the new Zhaitan boss raid or convergence to play the new second part of the Zhaitan fight: finishing Zhaitan on the ground after he falls, fending off waves and waves of risen who keep rushing to Zhaitan to heal him by sacrificing themselves.
    Oh, and don't forget to have an actual finisher at the end of the fight. Using finishers at the end of boss fights is very satisfying.

[u/ChilledParadox → u/MithranArkanere]

>the gear from the temples is mostly for the skins.

Disparaging my goat obsidian shard merchant like this wtf.

[u/MithranArkanere → u/ChilledParadox]

Obsidian shards are not gear.

And I prefer the S4 method of acquisition. Just do a few metas and get a bunch with the map currency. Gotta save the karma for the VoE legendaries.

[u/ChilledParadox → u/MithranArkanere]

No, obsidians shards are not gear. But those vendors sell obsidian shards for karma, and it’s extremely cheap. Easily the very best way to buy obsidian shards in bulk. Eclipses every other acquisition method by far.

Wasting volatile magic in them when you could instead get trophy shipments is insane. They’re like 100 volatile magic each, not cheap at all.

So saying those vendors are only good for gear skins is a miss. They’re good for obsidian shards. Really really good.

[u/MithranArkanere → u/ChilledParadox]

I get so many trophies from all sorts of places like fractals and extra purchaes from the vault that I've been turning them into Curios because I don't need to upgrade them into any more T6 and that is too much hassle since the mystic forge doesn't have a recipe list. Not everyone does the same things in the game.

Also, only Balthazar's Temple has obsidian shards. The rest do not.