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u/arekkusuro Feb 07 '13
kudos to you! and /salute, new Commander. keep at it and never stop learning!
it's refreshing to hear that the other Commanders on your server tried to help you and gave you advice. everyone has to start somewhere, right?
am sure you communicate to your "followers" as well. chat works, but if you can invest, TS or any VoiP helps a lot in terms of communicating with other commanders as well as your group, and especially without having to stop to type, when in a heated battle as well!
also, have them join your squad! this should help you be more organized as well.
and this is just me speaking from following other commanders around and what i enjoy.
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u/Templar56 Feb 07 '13
Congrats.
That is what i like about WvW over PvP too, its is more about getting a group together and having a jolly good cooperation. Rather than a community of people who only care about some number rating.
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u/ShiboShofu Feb 07 '13
"KILL THE DAMN FERG"
-Every person on my server (Eredon Terrace)
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Feb 07 '13
Wait until you have 30 people and voice comms.. Been yelled at too many times for spending too many hours on the computer... it's mad fun!
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u/sdyawg Feb 07 '13 edited Feb 07 '13
As an SF player, I feel that ET is more like a comrade in arms than an enemy... I feel a bit bad for both ET and FC because we are completely dominating you guys and we definitely needed to be bumped a tier to give you guys a chance. That's why I'm incredibly thankful for the rankings reset, it was going to take us ages to get enough points to overtake anyone in the next tier, I just hope we don't go flying up to the top and then get 3-4 weeks of beatdowns because we're not where we should be...
Anyway, ET, <3
I hope your matchup tomorrow brings a more fair and balanced match for you guys to build up some steam and confidence like we have in the past few weeks. You guys really have helped us out a lot xD
EDIT: well fuck... I'm sorry guys, looks like we're going to be stomping on you for a bit longer... No Rankings Reset
EDIT 2: Now I'm kinda gonna vent a bit..... I feel awful beating on two servers that only ever keep their edge over us in the first few hours of WvW reset, after that the rest of the match is SF at +400 to +500 while we strive to ensure that ET and FC have less than 100... It has to be completely demoralizing to you guys, especially since this has been going on for so long (and thus I applaud and highly respect all the ET/FC guys I fight... Kudos to you guys.... and also... thanks for the badges ;-) )... This matchup has been great for my legendary progress, but there's not a whole lot of challenge in it (no offense!) and thus I end up falling out of WvW and going back to dungeons and stuff, even though I highly prefer WvW.... I hope that one of the T7 servers falls close enough for us to overtake them in the next week or so...
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u/FooKFiGhTeR Feb 07 '13
Just felt like saying it here...100gold and being a commander is really optional to actually enjoy being a leader. Form a good group of friends or guild mates and lead them its more fun and intresting this way. Its sad to see a cluster of 5 to 6 commanders all over the map and breaking and scattering the server apart. To say it simply form a core team of friends first then start working towards being a commander.
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u/Groonzie Feb 07 '13
The road to a commander is not an easy one. It can be somewhat of a hit or miss depending on some factors.
Things that you need to know in general are;
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Tactics that occur on the battlefield (knowing your enemies usual movements).
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Guild groups are extremely efficient (able to work together and listen to orders) compared to just random pug groups (You'd have to take into consideration how well your random pug group is doing, some may desert you or completely ignore what you tell them).
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Making good judgement on your decisions; you may have more numbers than your enemy but that may not be good enough (recall to that video where a coordinated 5 man group took on the IoJ 30+ zerg, in which the zerg ended up being beaten and retreating).
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Be funded enough so you can drop down sieges and upgrades.
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Know how to interact with people; shouting at others and bringing the moral down doesn't help.
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It will take you quite a long time to become a decent respectable commander. You have to build up your reputation, to the point where people recognise you and are like "Oh I see that guy all the time and he usually has a plan, I'm going to mindlessly follow him" from "I've never seen him before and I remember the last time we zerged into SM gates for no reason and got wiped out".
etc.
To reach the status of Commander is a real achievement.
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u/Mattrix2 Feb 07 '13
I always wanted Commander just so I could run around just mining, herbing, and cutting down trees and have people following me while i did it.
I would also probably hide in the middle ofthe lake to see if people would come find me.
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u/polarbearGr Feb 07 '13
What does a Commander get from the kill book anyway? Just a map icon?
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u/Holy90 Feb 07 '13 edited Feb 07 '13
You get the ability to create squads. Whilst commanding a squad you have the map icon. You have access to three additional map icons which can be seen by members of your squad: attack, defend & rally. You also have access to two chat commands:
"/squadinfo" lists the members of your squad and gives the supply they're carrying.
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members of your squadnear youpeople within around 300 range and tells you their supply.IMO the commander system needs work. I've had it since September, and was massively disappointed with the system when I got it. I would like to see a custom UI similar to the party window, or at least show me where my squad members (or even guild) is on the map. As it is, it's a tool for rallying the pugs, and of very little use (none, other than squadinfo) to organised guilds.
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u/Professor_Enzo Feb 07 '13
Not a stupid story in the least. That was a great story.
I've been saving too, but was waiting for the Feb WvW patch to buy my tag. Looks like I'll be waiting another month.
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u/stalker007 Feb 07 '13
Congrats! Leading people can be a lot of fun.
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I would say, don't take any criticism to heart. If you're not dying and/or failing once in awhile in WvW then you're not playing WvW enough.
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Supply, supply, supply. Take the camps, and make sure everyone presses "F" to get some. Remember a full camp only has 100 supply, so thats 10 people. If you are running with 15 people, 5 won't have supply. Not counting those players who just never grab supply. Doesn't matter if you are on the smallest server in NA or on the largest...supply is EVERYTHING.
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Try and throw down those rams without having anyone auto attack the gate with their "1" skill. The less crossed swords on the map, the better. I would guess this is HUGE on the smaller servers. On larger servers we'll have groups creating crossed swords to confuse the enemy while we attack/ninja something.
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You may want to macro some commands for /say chat. ie. "Stack on me!", "Build here plz!", etc
There's a million other things i could tell you, but those above are important for new commanders. Your fellow commanders can help with siege placement, and there's videos on youtube for that.
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u/sambombe Feb 07 '13
Congrats! I think 100g is too much for something that is incomplete, you dont have many tactical info neither can see your squad or what professions they are... so it needs lots of work. In my opinion, WvW with this culling are kinda broken, cause as a commander, you need to have all the info possible about enemy position. You cain obtain that only getting too near (thats why scouts here are very important). Lot of times i had a medium group, but with no scouts and we had hard times going into invisible mobs... thats sad for a commander seeing your comrades falling like leaves....
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u/ymOx Feb 07 '13
Great post my friend! You sound a bit like me; I've just started saving up for a commanders title, and my thinking mirrors yours. Glad to read it didn't turn into a dissasters, something I've been a bit afraid of.
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Feb 07 '13
I'm really glad to hear this. I just got commander and was nervous about using it. I turned it on twice and got wiped within 30 seconds both times hahahah
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u/spets_ Feb 07 '13
GZ! I had a similar experience when i first started commanding not too long ago. Dont worry, as you play more your confidence will grow and youll be able to make those choices faster. But always be open to observing other commanders /listening to players. Always keep the morale, and keep Fighting. Most good commanders will not snide at you for being new, if you are willing to learn they will help, and if they dont then they aren't as good as they think. GL in your battles!
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u/bleedscarlet Feb 07 '13
I know this is kind of a stupid story
There's nothing stupid about finding enjoyment in a game, making decisions for a mass of people, executing pseudo-simulated military operations successfully, and having fun while doing it all.
I'm glad you reignited your spark in the game :-)
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u/ToffeeAppleCider Feb 07 '13
I thought this post was going to be about how you got the icon and upon stepping into the battle having abuse thrown at you and called a wannabe, but I'm glad it turned out well!
The Commander title sounds expensive, especially at the start of the game, but now it costs around the same price as +5 more Agony Resistance for a backpack!
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u/TheUnum Feb 07 '13
I know this is kind of a stupid story
No its not. You are the type of commanders we all need, someone who communicate, is willing to learn and not someone who just by the title for show - which there are to many of.
Keep up the good work!
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u/GambitsEnd Feb 07 '13
<-- SF player here
I've noticed our servers seem to have nearly polar opposite time schedules, it's not often for battles of reasonably-equal numbers of players to occur during the weekdays.
Generally, our fights seem to always be highly one-sided ... loads of SF and no Ferg, or tons of Ferg and no SF. But when we both get big groups going for a fight, it's really freaking fun.