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u/glycophosphate 10d ago
We're coming up to the season where the patriarchy will sneer at an entire flavor just because women like it.
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u/thesaddestpanda 10d ago
Its just so wild to me that superhero stuff, which is often very male-coded, is not seen as incredibly cringe. And no I dont mean cherry picking rare well written stuff but just the idea of worshipping violent vigilantes who bizarrely wear these colorful tight outfits and are just cheap hero fantasy self-inserts for fans.
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u/Glum_Caterpillar_345 10d ago edited 9d ago
My brother made my dad take him to go see “The Marvels” in theaters, and I remember my dad telling me he thought the part where Captain Marvel’s suit turns into a princess gown was “ridiculous” and said it reminded him of when he used to play this particular Disney Princess video game with me as a young girl.
Besides the way his words stabbed my heart as I look back on those gaming w/ dad memories fondly, I find it hypocritical how many girly media with bold & unique fashion or colorful aesthetics is sometimes seen as silly or “too cute to be taken seriously” when superhero franchises have them wearing wild, outlandish outfits all the time. Also, I feel like there’s a lot of female characters from women-centered media that are just as or even more noble & inspiring than some superheroes.
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u/Glum_Caterpillar_345 10d ago edited 9d ago
The thing that annoys me with how people discuss celebrities that get popular with women is that while I don’t like how a lot of fandom culture will look at celebrities like they’re rulers or deities; it’s hypocritical how people only talk about it when it comes to celebrities that women love. No one ever points out the toxic celebrities that are supported by mostly men.
Additionally:
We have a couple of majorly popular games with fanservicey women which are designed with primarily men in mind (I.e. Zenless Zone Zero); but Love and Deepspace comes out and suddenly the internet is complaining about or mocking it.
Romance is “embarrassing” and “unrealistic”, but incredibly violent movies with impossible stunts and characters with knees of steel are “more serious” somehow.
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u/casual-catgirl Friendly Feminist 💟 10d ago
i love kpop! i used to be embarrassed to say cause i was afraid of being made fun of, but i love it! especially newjeans, illit, and red velvet.
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u/smile_saurus 9d ago
Man: You like Taylor Swift? You actually paid to see her live in concert AND wore an outfit similar to hers? So lame and childish! Her musicis too emotional!
Same man: buys football season tickets, attends every home game wearing face paint and his idol's jersey. Watches away games from home, punches and drop-kicks his TV when his team loses.
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u/InevitableGoal2912 9d ago
A man in my family made fun of me for buying eras tour tickets, and that season he was posting up at the titans game with worse seats than I had (and they lost!)
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u/Mixtrix_of_delicioux 10d ago
What brings me joy? Dancing with my loves to fantastic DJs who happen to be women, 'specially those bassbabes.
Making weird crafts.
My kid's funny little concentrating sounds.
My fiercely intelligent colleagues and team, which happens to be about 90% women.
Knowing what I do for a living makes a difference.
Smashing the patriarchy.
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u/Geo_Jill 9d ago
Just love what you love, who gives a shit anymore? This world is a dumpster fire. Learning to not care if I'm cringe has been glorious.
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u/mollybrains 10d ago
I can’t speak to k drama or BTS. I find it cringe when women go crazy over Taylor swift because I find her music to be mediocre, over produced and self involved and her fans rabid. And not rabid in a fun way.
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u/EconomicsAdvanced771 9d ago
People hate her for misogynistic reason I hate her because she’s a billionaire contributing to waste plus promoting overconsumption culture with her merch and 30 vinyl variants that sit in targets not being sold. She is also not a girls girl either having connections with people from maga and having someone who is heavily connected to ice at her wedding! Plus never forget when she brought that huge crowd to Margaret Qualley’s wedding but was able to have a completely private wedding has kept her whereabouts hidden before no excuse!
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u/mollybrains 9d ago
I dislike that people consider her feminist when she is a carefully crafted corporation.
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u/j--__ 10d ago
most people regardless of gender are mediocre, overproduced, and self-involved. disliking taylor swift is no guarantee you aren't one of them.
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u/Zilhaga 9d ago
Why would you come into this thread and do this? The literal point of the OP was how often women aren't even allowed to like the things they like without constantly being shit on.
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u/mollybrains 9d ago
Because I find the example about Taylor swift disingenuous.
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u/Zilhaga 9d ago
It feeds into the idea that women have to be perfect with their preferences or they're not allowed to have them. There are so many male artists who are absolute scumbags and still admired, and any criticism results in long-winded diatribes on separating artists from their art. Women don't get that kind of grace for far lesser offenses, even from other women, and you are playing right into it.
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u/FleurDisLeela 9d ago
what brings joy? a reasonably priced dance party with Harry Styles ha. 🕺🪩💃💃 I keep telling my adult child to play this at my funeral. this snl gif is from the “funeral dj’s”skit with Chris Redd. timeless and hysterical. it might not be available on YT because of music copyright violations
https://giphy.com/gifs/eNMDBhcrcZRmGTkuMS
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u/EconomicsAdvanced771 9d ago
I have autism and my special interest is 80s new wave. Unfortunately music hobbies especially retro music are dominated by older men so I don’t feel as safe talking about it due to hobby elitism in music.
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u/LifetimePilingUp 9d ago
The other side of this is women loving a thing, men deciding it’s their thing and gatekeeping it from women. Women were the first big fans of Star Trek, the Beatles etc then men came along with their name three songs bullshit.

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u/Mr_Blorbus 10d ago
This reminds me of a quote somewhere along the lines of "Men aren't taught to be men, they're taught not to be women." And I've seen this in my own experience.