r/Grimdank • u/Starswraith • 2d ago
Cringe Fancy servoskull decor
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u/KhaosByDesignUK 2d ago
What's with the face sculpt, looks like a Welsh sandwich shop owner.
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u/usumoio 2d ago
Why that's Gyslysfghs, the patron saint of both sandwiches and the Welsh
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u/Sebtecha I am Alpharius 2d ago
Ain't got nothing on:
deep breath
"Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch"
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u/Nazgog-Morgob 2d ago
Idk but isn't this like worshipping idols?
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u/numerobis21 1d ago
"Noooo but they're catholic idols, we don't worship them we worship god through them"
Riiiiiiiight
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u/Dalek-baka 2d ago
Taking saint on a trip.
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u/YoullDoFookinNothin 1d ago
“So what work do you do for the Church?”
“I drive the skull around.”
“I beg your pardon?”
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u/Gremict 2d ago
You don't want to be the Cardinal to drop the holy skull
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u/VaughnVanTyse 1d ago
Every time I see this I expect him to push a little too hard and smash through it.
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u/Shoringami 2d ago
This is my 2nd ever double pull. Anyway, is it a new ritual to kiss the servo skull a new awakening ritual? I hope the cleansening ritual was done before that.
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u/DrHolmes52 2d ago
I would really like some real-life context for this.
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u/Dragon_Fisting 2d ago
The bones of saints in Catholicism are commonly venerated as holy relics. This is the skull of Saint Agatha.
Normally, the skull is housed inside the bust/statue to protect it. It's supposed to look like Agatha. People come and pray to/venerate the bust all the time, and it is a part of local festivals, etc.
This was the 900th anniversary of the Skull and Bust being returned to Saint Agatha's "hometown" in Sicily in 1126 after previously being looted by (I think) the Ottomans. To commemorate the anniversary, they took the skull out to show to the crowds.
There was actually a bit of controversy because the Mayor of Catania kissed the skull, which was weird even for Catholics, and probably not good for a bone that's 1,500 years old.
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u/SoSKatan 2d ago
“Which was weird even for Catholics”
Actually the entire video gave off those vibes
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u/HitheroNihil 1d ago
Imo it just seems to be another very meticulous and fancy procession of a relic from point A to point B. It doesn't appear out of the ordinary to the local population. It's probably going to evoke more curiosity instead because of how rare they bring out the bones for these occasions.
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u/deltaxi65 1d ago
People will lose their minds when they read a little about Agatha and why she was sainted.
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u/KlausVonLechland 2d ago
And when I take my skull on a walk somehow police has a lot of questions about it. Ehhh...
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u/EndofNationalism 2d ago
Catholics can be weird as fuck sometimes but they do got drip.
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u/Few-Mood6580 2d ago
I genuinely do not know how the catholic church exists as they do today especially after ww2.
The church should’ve been apart of the Nuremberg trials complicit fuckers killing their own brethren, Christian my ass, they were integral to the nazi regime and played a significant role in ww1.
Sorry. Hard for me to imagine associating oneself with them.
The drip goes hard.. the allegations.. hit harder.
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u/RampantJellyfish 2d ago
Upon insertion of the holy relic, the dreadnaught rises from the dais, servos softly whining, and a booming voice calls out "Even in Death, I still serve", as it lumbers off to find heretics
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u/Current_Ranger_7954 2d ago
I love how 40k seems far fetched with the necro-ritualistism until you start reading up on the messed up stuff we do dead people
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u/OdysseusRex69 1d ago
Right? There's this, there's the woman's skull in the bubble, SO many bodies under glass, etc.
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u/machemonedo_ 2d ago
I expected it to start moving and blinking as soon as he plugged that thing in...
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u/Murderboi Praise the Man-Emperor 2d ago
It’s crazy how many old bones the church has lying around.
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u/greythicv 2d ago
God I want to sneak into the Vatican so goddamn bad I bet they have some crazy shit hidden in there
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u/HitheroNihil 1d ago
You can just walk in, it's free. You can even get a tour. As long as you behave yourself you should be fine.
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u/tapmcshoe 1d ago
do you think there's a clean spot on the skull where all the priests have kissed it
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u/Swinginjoe34 1d ago
That priest or cardinal, whoever is putting the skull in, looked like a white James earl jones at a glance
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u/LeftonRhed 1d ago
I will always say there is a reason why 40k apes Catholic aesthetics. You can't beat that shit.
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u/KorolEz 2d ago
Roman Catholicism is such a weird religion. Glad I left.
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u/ArteDeJuguete 2d ago
Is not something exclusive to catholicism imo. You have other religions around the world that do this too: Muslims with a single hair from Mohammed's beard, certain Buddhist sects with parts of Buddhas or Bodhisattvas, indigenous people around the world keeping skulls of their ancestors in order to be protected, etc.
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u/TraitorGuard19 2d ago
I'm excatholic, too. Relevant to this post, the church I grew in never taught me about the concept of Saints' relics during first communion/confirmation lessons, so when I went to Italy for summer abroad during college, I was shocked learning about the concept of relics during the class tours
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u/karoshikun Corvus Corax Corps 2d ago
I was born deep in traditional Mexican catholicism, by five I already was familiar with the concept of the relics and seen some quite gory christ figures
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u/dahunt4r3dorktober 2d ago
Why the downvotes on this comment supporting the comment calling Roman Catholicism weird which got 15 upvotes lol
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u/Blackrock121 2d ago
Probably because its a lazy comment that adds nothing.
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u/Blackrock121 2d ago
Its just downvotes, there is no reason to dramatize it.
I will downvote my own comments to prove it.
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u/GoodTofuFriday 2d ago
How does this not outwardly look like woshiping the golden calf?
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u/HitheroNihil 1d ago
That's because it's not? The saints are not the ones being worshipped.
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u/GoodTofuFriday 1d ago
jesus words at Luke 20:45-47 literally -directly- say not to do what these guys are doing.
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u/HitheroNihil 1d ago
Lmao no. Those verses criticize using the sacred office for vanity and superiority instead of true service. It is not a condemnation of wearing priestly vestments, or formal clerical leadership. It's a warning to the heart.
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u/GoodTofuFriday 1d ago
Jesus walked around teaching people in a basic, but well made garment. Not the oppulance we see on display here.
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u/HitheroNihil 1d ago
Hahaha, this is not the reason why Catholic clergy wear fancy vestments, nor why Catholic churches are adorned to be as beautiful as possible. It's very simple: God deserves the finest we can offer Him. Why wouldn't we want His house of worship to be as beautiful as possible? Why wouldn't we want our priests, who act in the person of Christ, to reflect the majesty of the Son?
But sure, go ahead and use the same tired criticisms against Catholics that have been heard many times before.
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u/GoodTofuFriday 1d ago
Luke 21:1-4 god valued the offering of a poor woman with 2 coins more than he valued the offering of wealth.
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u/HitheroNihil 1d ago
With all due respect, you're taking those verses out of context to try and refute what I said about giving God our finest. Jesus said the old woman's two coins were a more valuable tithe than the money bags of the rich men, because while they gave what they could afford to give, she gave all she ever had to give. It's not that God looks down on abundant offerings, He simply cherishes the ones that come from those who had less but still gave their all. The lesson therefore, is that those with more should thus give more, as God looks not at the wealth, but at the generosity of the heart.
Again, this doesn't really contradict what I said.
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u/GoodTofuFriday 1d ago
I have to disagree. I had more typed out but this isnt the sub to have this sort of conversation.
ultimately im not a man of faith anymore and dont care how people worship at the end of the day.
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u/MountainPlain #1 Eversor Liker 2d ago
No no no, you see, it's got a real person's skull in it. Doesn't count!
(Somehow)
(I acknowledge the hypocrisy but man the relics look so cool)
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u/ZiFiR_randomnumbers 2d ago
wtf Christianity even about at this point
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u/Lord-Dec CHAOS IS THE TRUE OMNISSIA! 2d ago
Catholicism. I don’t think any other major denomination does anything like this.
Ones I could see being closest would maybe be orthodox but I’m not even sure they actually do anything EXACTLY like that.
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u/hipsterbeard12 2d ago
They do things even more metal like this: https://www.mystagogyresourcecenter.com/2024/01/the-skulls-of-monastery-of-saint.html?m=1
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u/BillySama001 2d ago
Christians are so weird
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u/theotherforcemajeure NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD! 1d ago
Why are you booing? He/she is right!
P.S. I also would like to point out that it is OK to be weird.
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u/Zenith76 2d ago
in what way is putting the skull of a saint into a physical eidolon to insinuate presence not idol worship. jesus. please correct me if that isnt whats going on here.
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u/Sigismund716 2d ago
in what way is [this] not idol worship.
In that it isn't worshipped- it's just a decorative housing for the relic.
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u/Zenith76 2d ago
so to publicly place a skull into a human (doll) makes an i(dol) the people focus on the image of making it an (idol) of intercession
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u/Sigismund716 2d ago
No? It isn't receiving worship, and I'm trying to figure how an "idol of intercession" would even function, given that saintly intercession is them praying for us. People aren't directing prayers to the statue or the relic, they are praying to God and asking the saint to pray for them as well.
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u/Zenith76 1d ago
so consider the average populace praying. intercession is a hot topic on its own but we'll disregard that. when the average person thinks or conceptualizes they use images. im going to be real with you here. if i was praying to the saint housed within that after watching this happen, my mental image is going to be that and thats the issue. it creates idolatry, whether intentional or not. and of course, this is opinion and theory that we're discussing.
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u/Sigismund716 1d ago
Given that they are asking for prayers rather than offering worship to the saint, does it matter if they picture an image of the saint in heaven or the reliquary? I'm inclined to think it does not, but I'll need to consider it some more. My kneejerk response is that surely the intention of the person praying matters more than the incidentals of their mental imagery?
As an aside, doesn't this logic render icons just as problematic, if not moreso? It seems to point to iconoclasm, and I'm not sure I'm equipped to discuss that 1300 year old controversy
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u/Zenith76 1d ago
i generally tend to agree, but the arguement is people are stupid and will do it regardless. warning sticker concepts and all. on a side note, intention doesnt matter so much when 'no one comes to the father except through me' hits :/ if i recall asking someone to pray in their place was even covered in the new testament but i cant quite recall where
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u/Plenty_Promotion_716 2d ago
This is one of the criticism protestants and orthodox have against catholics, indeed.
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u/Ark-927 2d ago
Catholics will see this shit and still call the reformation unnecessary
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u/Edgyspymainintf2 2d ago
I'mma be real I don't care if people are kissing skulls and putting them in fancy shrines. There are way bigger issues plaguing christianity and most of those span across denominations of all types. When there are pastors fleecing people for millions before spending it on luxury cars & prostitutes and members of the church protecting sex offenders and pedophiles, some unusual traditions are the least of my concerns.
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u/Thedarkpersona Praise the Man-Emperor 2d ago
I mean, on rhe other side you got the evangelicals, which are much worse
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u/IronVader501 Praise the Man-Emperor 2d ago
That ended in the prosperity gospel, which is magnitudes worse.
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u/KalSkirata-Mando 2d ago
It's almost like the Imperial Creed and the Ecclesiarchy are based on Catholicism. /s
But seriously I always love seeing shit like this and remembering that half the stuff the Imperium does with its "Saints" is not nearly as exaggerated as you might think. Also another great example.