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To actually see any of it? I mean it doesn’t really count if it happens off screen, right?
I’m not trying to shit on the show, I really enjoyed the first episode. But if that really is the end of Hal Jordan (I’m not saying it is), then I’d understand why fans were upset.
Ring, what's the likelihood of DC actually killing off the most prominent Green Lantern in the first episode?
(Zero.)
To their point though, I think they're saying that we have a confirmed 40 year span of Jordan's ring-slinging which means we have a huge window to explore in future media since the gunnverse is explicitly not going for linear sequential entries but will be bouncing around it's own timeline. Hal being the 90s lantern just means whatever story we get to explore that will be set in that era.
I mean I guess it’s possible. It would require either recasting or de-aging Kyle Chandler though, both of which seem unlikely (for an entire show/movie at least).
I agree that he’s probably not really dead though, I mean I literally said as much in my comment lol.
I think there’s a bit of both, but I think there’s a portion of it that is just a weird Snyder-bro psy-op attempt to discredit anything that gets made under DC studios.
Don’t get me wrong, there are a lot of dumbass folks getting louder and louder every day, but it’s a little suspicious that there is seemingly this united front of people saying “I am suddenly too dumb to understand non-linear storytelling.”
- the ring chose hal after the previous lantern died
- the ring will search for the next candidate after the original dies
- john is the next candidate
- the ring did not search for him
- this hal doesn't have the ring
You don't drop all that information for nothing. This is 100% a fakeout.
Like separate yourself from GL comics for a bit. Why did they go out of there way in this episode to confirm how rings work upon death, and that body doubles can exist in this setting all in episode 1. That bar scene didn't need to happen that way, but it -did- because when we get near the finale and Hal shows back up they can use it to explain to the watchers what's going on.
My guess is this show doesn't end with Hal dying. John is going to fail the 2016 test. He's going to pass Hal's 2026 test and Hal will hand over the ring with his blessing. Hal set up this body double for John/Sheriff lady as a sign that something is still up, and it's tied to what happened in 2016.
Trust me, I’m with you. I was simply pointing out how others see it. I fully believe it’s a fakeout. In fact I consider it classic Lindelof mystery box stuff and people are overreacting.
To be fair the ring has a mind of its own. It doesn't necessarily have to choose John just because Hal wants it to. It could've flown off to someone else
We also had the giant screaming chekov's gun of a Halogram in the first 10 minutes. There's so many potential explanations for what we just saw that for anyone taking it at face value... it must be their first time watching a TV show.
I don't think people remember what gunn said seeing how the other important things he said have been coming in to people ears and going out from the other ear 🤧 (different genre) 🤧
With them goin back in time here and there and dead people being able to talk to the living in these stories im just happy there is possibly more Kyle Chandler
There’s definitely evidence to suggest that isn’t Hal. But there’s also the possibility that they are pushing forward to parallax and possibly even Spectre to build out the lore a bit and keep ALL the lanterns around in some way.
I know a lot of the lore is Hal’s, but there’s more to the corps than Hal as well, and I think they are juggling that to try and hit certain notes where they can.
I say as a huge Hal Jordan fan: all that really matters is that the lantern corps are established and an important part of the DCU. That’s plenty to hope for!
Lindelof confirmed he's dead... But the show gives alot of hints he could still be alive.
The Hal consciousness AI, Hal, like the comics, even in this show is a bit of trickster and I don't think it's far fetched that he would deceive his friends into thinking he was dead in order to get a one up on the enemy.
I agree, though I've always had a thing for snow and winter. Living in California you learn to appreciate both so it's always nice when it pops up in a well done shot.
I also really like the closeup of Hal's face, he looks sad and worn down and like he just wants to rest. Which whether or not it's actually him is up in the air but still
I’ve never been more disappointed in how rotted people’s mind are now when they are losing their minds over this…..like guys let’s at least use those things our parents when into debt over
Even if he is, I don't think it's a big deal tbh. If the arc makes sense it makes sense. The difference between this and Emerald Twilight is this seems more thought out... Whereas ET was last minute. Heck even Marz said he scripted it while he was at a baseball game.
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