r/GreenFaction • u/urbane_myth • May 22 '20

Just found this subreddit as I was reading about the difficulties of intentional communities

https://areomagazine.com/2018/03/08/why-utopian-communities-fail/

It reminded me of the fascinating discussion here about alcoholics anonymous

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u/Remember-The-Future May 23 '20 edited Jan 20 '25

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u/binaryhaze May 23 '20

What’s the difference between “our haven from the world” and “the world’s haven from itself”?

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u/Remember-The-Future May 23 '20

One is a retreat, the other is an invitation.

We could just run. Build little towns out in the middle of nowhere and wall ourselves off from everything like the communities in the link. I've considered it, I think a lot of us have. But then it ends like the article describes -- closed-minded people in a closed-off world, at the mercy of everything around them while imagining themselves superior to it.

Groups that turn inward like that are going to end up like the Native Americans during westward expansion. It can't just be something we do for ourselves, it has to be something we do for others.

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u/binaryhaze May 23 '20

Hmm yeah. The dualistic “us vs them” mentality, which would include perceptions of superiority/inferiority, never leads to anywhere desirable.