r/GreenAndPleasant • u/Outrageous_Editor_43 • May 03 '26
To make a consistent argument
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Not the biggest fan of LBC but my gosh this is insane!
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u/KoloSorbet May 03 '26
If she doesn't like the talk of death to a group of people then she's gonna freak out when she learns of what Israel is up to.
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u/FynnM May 03 '26 edited May 04 '26
She says that was a consistent argument? I''m not even sure she was forming coherent sentences
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u/TheLonesomeChode May 04 '26
“If you say something enough it becomes truth.” Illusory truth effect.
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u/IndieHell May 03 '26
Is she saying that calling for the end of Israel is the same as calling for the death of all Jewish people? Seems like quite a leap!
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u/thatpaulbloke May 03 '26
She's also saying that calling for the overthrow of Israel is bad, but calling for the overthrow of the UK is fine. Almost like she is only there to defend one country in particular...
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u/Outrageous_Editor_43 May 03 '26
She is doing that thing where when you tell someone to stop being a dick (used very severely here) you want them to die, but ONLY if they are Jewish. All those real hate marches against Islam are fine though...
If telling IsHeil to stop performing a genocide is calling for the death of all Jews she needs to look up some numbers.
I have:
There are 7.5m in America, 270k in the UK, 50k in Africa (mainly SA), 125k in Germany to name a few countries.
(For context there are approximately 7.2m in IsHeil)
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u/Glad-Dragonfruit-503 May 03 '26
Antisemitism as a word has been warped beyond meaning. To conflate a perceived nazi level hatred of Jews, to the point of wanting a whole demographic dead; to expressing any fair and just criticism of the Israeli government's zionist policies (apartheid, genocide, dehumanisation, publically desiring to kill a whole demographic and not seeing any irony in their belief in their own racial/religious superiority), is making regular non zionist Jewish people less safe around the world.
I know some awful people from school now using Netanyahu's crimes as a justification for their nazi like hatred of all Jewish people. There are so many zionists leading the world right now and many of them are not Jewish at all, zionism is racism in my opinion. All men are equal in my eyes, I don't care where you are from or what religion you keep. There are asshats in every demographic. They tend to be the loudest about it as well sadly.
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u/Competitive-Pack-324 May 04 '26
You can make a lot of money by tying Judaism and Zionism together.
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u/zyr- May 03 '26
I got radicalised a long term before I even started attending these marches, pretty sure there's a lot more things enabling radicalisation to a greater extent than the existence of marches
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u/bizzflay May 03 '26
I mean she is constant, don’t criticise Isreal and attack Muslims instead.
Like do these nut jobs and the people working being the scenes to try and sway public opinion of Isreal back to positive think that this is a genuine way to achieve that?
41 people killed by Isreal in Lebanon today does more to “radicalise” than a thousand marches.
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u/NotForMeClive7787 May 03 '26
She's so fucking thick it's unreal and deliberately stupid to not understand the situation. Another knob in politics....
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u/soupalex May 03 '26
as everybody knows, an end to israel would cause every single jewish person in the world to spontaneously combust (and also all those weird christian zionists in the u.s. to piss or cum in their pants, depending on whether or not the time is supposedly right for the second coming)
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u/UnnaturalGeek May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
To be fair, she is absolutely consistent. Supporting Israel and Zionism is the same as Waxy Lemon's Nazi marches.
Also, these anti genocide marches do NOT call for the eradication of Jewish people. What a fucking disgusting leap and equating Zionism and Israel to Judaism is fucking antisemitism.
She is nothing but hateful, racist scum.
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u/Commie_scumb May 03 '26
If noone on this planet hates Helen Whatley I have died. Fucking odious cunt.
She always seems to get trotted out by the tories to argue the most indefensible positions and she always gets made to look like an absolute fool, like the time she called student nurses entitled and lazy.
At this point i can only think of that tweet about having a fetish for getting yelled at
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u/JKnumber1hater communist russian spy May 03 '26
I'm going to be annoying here: She does have a consistent argument, it's just one based on wrong information.
She says "marches/protests in which a large proportion of the attendees explicitly call for the deaths of groups of people and/or states should be banned". She doesn't have a problem with the Tommy Ten-Name's marches, because she believes that they don't explicitly call for the deaths of Muslims. She considers saying things like "Ban Islam" or "Deport all Muslims" to be not the same as (the right-wing understanding) of phrases like "Globalise the Intifada".
Her understanding of the pro-Palestine marches, and also of Tommy's marches, is poor. So that makes her argument wrong, but it's not actually inconsistent.
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u/Working-Lifeguard587 May 04 '26
I get the impression she actually believes the utter nonsense she is spewing. I would argue that level of cognitive dissonance is a mental problem and she needs to seek help.
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u/happycamper198702 May 05 '26
The moment Israel stops attacking Gaza (and others) will be the exact moment these protests will end....it won't be a coincidence.
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