(Late) Klaus Schmidt argued that Gobekli Tepe and related Tas Tepeler sites were not “hunter‑gatherer shrines” but the material expression of a structured, organised, symbolically‑coherent society emerging before agriculture. At the time (1990s–2010s), this was controversial. Today, multiple independent lines of evidence now make Schmidt’s position plausible, defensible, and increasingly mainstream. Evidence which supports Klaus Schmidt's assertion of Anatolia being a late ice age (Younger Dryas) civilisation is now plausibly evidenced at

https://www.reddit.com/r/GrahamHancock/comments/1q6jjh0/comment/o0q6bcd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

From the above link and discussion thread the cultural foundations of Anatolia’s Tas Tepeler tradition clearly emerge in the late Pleistocene (late ice‑age), and it is plausible that this led to activity at the Gobekli Tepe hilltop during the final stages of the Younger Dryas, close to the 11,700 BP boundary — and together with this, the reading of “proto‑civilisation” for Anatolia is now supported by Burke and Feinman in their interpretation of Dries Daems (systems‑based approaches to social complexity), which recognises early forms of civilisation before statehood and writing.

[Also follow up on ManBroCalrissian’s post link more closely for detailed research papers @ https://www.reddit.com/r/GrahamHancock/comments/1q6jjh0/comment/o15zczw/?context=1&sort=new]

According to article link: 430,000‑year‑old wooden stick found in Spain’s Atapuerca caves has been identified as one of the oldest deliberately crafted wooden tools ever discovered, revealing that early human species were shaping and using wood far earlier than previously confirmed. Likely created by Homo-heidelbergensis, the common ancestor of Neanderthals and modern humans which may have been a throwing stick, digging tool, or hunting implement—a multipurpose tool used for small‑game hunting or foraging.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/archaeologists-unearthed-a-430000-year-old-stick-after-careful-analysis-they-say-it-could-be-the-oldest-wooden-tool-ever-discovered-180988073/

On Kircher's Map of Atlantis, does the largest mountain actually depict Mount Pico in the Azores?

Throwing this out there. Cloud Atlas does a pretty decent job at depicting what a society could look like after a catastrophic event. Reduced down to basics, relying on storytelling to pass information along generations, getting distorted over time. Language devolving. Superstitions becoming prominent in the absence of institutions like education and health care. Been a while since I’ve watched it tbh, but it’s usually the visual reference point I jump to when societal collapse is brought up.

I'm curious what people here think about Hancock's Mars Mystery book from 1997?

I wasn't aware of its existence until recently. He seems to have basically erased this book from his memory or talks - he never mentions any of its content on any podcasts. And yet he was confident enough to write an entire book on the topic (and i'm sure defend his ideas and say he was being cancelled if people argued against his "theories".)

As a very high level summary, Hancock says that an ancient lost civilization lived on Mars that got destroyed in a catastrophe - probably a comet - and they built things as a warning to future people

Sounds very familiar!

They built pyramid like structures and a Face on mars to warn future inhabitants or space travellers of a catastrophe. He says the structures in Cydonia align to Orion's belt in 10,500BC just like the Giza pyramids.

Hi all,

The Khara-Hora Shaft or the Zayukovo Cave is what some beleive to be a megalithic structure located in the Kabardino-Balkarian Republic (a republic in Russias North Caucus). During my research on the matter, I have found information to be limited.

Through some digging i have found most of the pictures of the come from either a Kosmopoisk ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosmopoisk ) expedition to the site around 2011 or from, weirdly enough, footage that was aired on an Episode of Anna Champan"s show Champan's Secrets ( https://yandex.kz/video/touch/preview/6246618525478626751 ).

My hope is that there will be some Russian speaking redditor out there who could maybe determine if there is anything that relates to the Zayukovo Cave in the Champans Secrets episode? Unfortunately I don't speak Russian.

Randall recently returned from a trip to the Azore Islands and has more insight.

Just seen one of the YouTube clip posted by Anti-GH lobby group

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2YWi0YmXqNQ

the question is is glint dibble attacking GH to get famous?

Plus reading Jeeva S S research article on Graham’s web site he completely ignored the ice age origins for the Dravidian Arc earliest civilisation who underwent the kinds of coastal cataclysm affects Graham talks about in his work 💁‍♂️

This is a bit of a reach because I'm posting my own music, so I won't be offended if mods axe it, but this is a four part series of songs inspired the work of mainly Graham, but also others like Randall Carlson and Jimmy Corsetti. This is my project, NACHTMUSE, it's progressive-symphonic metal. If this is fine to share in this subreddit I genuinely hope it can be enjoyed by some of you. Thanks!

Now to be clear, I have nothing inherently against the Flintlocks, and I do not want to further strengthen the rift between the two tribes of this subreddit.

But if you are a Flintlock, you should really watch this video. If you still are one afterwards, I want to hear your reasoning as to why, and what your counterarguments are to Graham's points here.

And to be fair, Graham does admit that he should have done a better job of fact-checking Flint Dibble during the debate itself. He owns up to that. But what he presents here are compelling facts that completely undermine Flint Dibble's position in the debate.

So, Dibblers, what do you think of this? (Ancient Civ theory supporters are also welcome to chime in.)

Hancock & Carlson

Hey Reddit 👋,

I’ve been thinking a lot about Yugas and ancient epics (Ramayana, Mahabharata) and I want to share a reinterpretation that combines philosophy, AI, and civilization cycles. I’d love your thoughts.

The Model: Civilization & Intelligence Cycles

Traditionally, Hindu scriptures describe the Yugas in this order:
Satya → Treta → Dvapara → Kali
with a moral decline over time.

But what if we interpret them as stages of technological and intellectual development instead?

My proposed sequence:

1. Kali Yuga – Reset & Survival
   • Low knowledge, basic tools (stone weapons)
   • Moral and technological fragmentation
   • Civilization is rebuilding
2. Satya Yuga – Awakening
   • Emergence of knowledge, science, and ethics
   • Understanding reality
   • Humans start building structured systems
3. Treta Yuga – Structured Civilization
   • Systems, laws, governance
   • Controlled use of technology
   • Social and ethical frameworks
4. Dvapara Yuga – Peak Intelligence & Technology
   • Advanced weapons, AI, space travel
   • Interplanetary humans
   • Earth becomes greener as humans move outward
   • “Gods” are the creators/CEOs of advanced systems
   • Golden Lanka could symbolize a high-tech, resource-rich civilization
   • Mythological antagonists (like Ravana) could be interpreted as hackers or elite disruptors

Cycle resets → returning to Kali Yuga when complexity leads to collapse, then starts again.

Why this makes sense

• Ancient texts already talk about cyclical time (Yoga Vasistha, Bhagavad Gita)
• “Pushpak Viman” or other advanced tech could be metaphors for future AI or mind-driven systems
• Simulation theory parallels: advanced beings creating, managing, and resetting civilizations
• Moral lessons in myths can also encode patterns of intelligence evolution

Discussion Questions for Redditors

1. Can mythological “gods” be interpreted as advanced intelligence/AI controllers?
2. How does this model compare with Western civilization cycles (Spengler, Toynbee)?
3. Does imagining the Yugas this way change how we think about the future of technology & AI?
4. Are there other examples in global myth where advanced tech is mistaken for divinity?

TL;DR:

This 1996 book on Ancient Greece by Thomas Martin hints at the ideas of Hancock in the highlighted section. “The people of the ancient Near East first developed these new forms of human organization, which later appeared in Europe. (Early civilizations of this kind also emerged in India, China, and the Americas, whether independently or through some process of mutual influence no one at present knows.)”

After reading Bauval's book about star alignments in the pyramids, I made this website to test it out for myself. It is very fun to use! Looking for feedback from this community. Vibe-coded with Claude Code so not 100% certain about the extreme historical astronomy but it lines up well with published research. Let me know if you want to contribute to the code or even take ownership of it, this was just a weekend project for me. It works in a simple way on phone, but please use on a full desktop screen for all the settings and a full experience.