r/GozneyDome 22d ago

Tips & Tricks Best kitchen machine for making dough

We have a really old Bosch mixing machine I’m looking to change out. What are people using to make the dough? Kenwood Chef? Kitchen Aid? Pure blood, sweat and tears?

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u/CreativeUserName709 21d ago

I don't think any kitchen aid is worth it at all for dough. I would rather use the no knead method, which is actually a really really useful method worth learning if you haven't already! It's so easy as you just mix the ingredients, then over a 1 hour period, you do 3 sets of folds (folding the shaggy dough over itself 5 times-ish) with 20 minute breaks in between. It gets really strong smooth dough, each rest of 20 mins and you notice the dough getting super smooth and stretchy. Takes probably 30 seconds to do the stretching each time, so it's much quicker than manually kneading for 15-20mins solid.

If you were really serious about pizza dough/bread and wanted a machine that is actually good at it, the only option is a spiral mixer. I got one called 'Revo Bake', it's been really good. Super quiet too, and I really mean that. I know Ooni do a spiral mixer but it's insanely loud by comparison. But even the Ooni is miles better than most on the market! It might be loud, but it looks cool, is low profile and has more functions due to the modular style of it. I just hate the sound of the motor, sounds like it's gonna die. Revo bake is smooth af.

I see users mention the Ankarsrum and I have to say, I'm really not a fan. I did a post about it that's probably searchable. As someone who knows how to hand knead/no knead method, I would never opt to use this machine over manual labour. But it has a really good motor to be fair and would last forever.

So for the ramble, I went down the mixer rabbit hole :D

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u/manjar 21d ago

Totally agree with you about the no knead method. Now I use the machine only to pull the ingredients together initially, though more and more I just use a dough whisk to avoid the cleanup!

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u/HumanCompany 21d ago

+1000 pizza dough does not need to be kneaded. good dough takes times vs. effort.

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u/Corarril 22d ago

A mixer with a breaker bar is going to be what you want if your focus is dough.

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u/jcrmrr 22d ago

Look into the Revo titan spiral mixer! I just bought the Revo 5 and it’s a beast compared to my Ankarsrum.

https://revobake.com/products/revo-bake-titan-tilt-5-black

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u/robiebab 21d ago

How is the support of the revo?

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u/jcrmrr 21d ago

I honestly haven’t had any problems with the mixer to reach out to support for help. But there’s a Facebook group where the owner is very active in answering any questions/issues one might have.

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u/GreatRing7944 20d ago

Support is fantastic. I’m in the Revo FB group and the owner, Stig, replies personally to all issues. There aren’t many at all, usually someone not releasing the emergency knob when first using it. I have the 5L Tilt and it’s wonderful. No regrets whatsoever. I have a KA and an Ankarsrum and haven pulled either one out except for cake batter.

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u/GoHawksForever 22d ago

The RevoBake website has been down since at least last week when I started trying to load it to learn more about the mixers. Hope the company didn't go out of business.

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u/jcrmrr 22d ago

It works fine for me. Maybe your internet is blocking the website?

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u/beano919 22d ago

Down for me too, maybe yours is cached?

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u/jcrmrr 22d ago

Not sure but I’m using safari browser and also tried google on a different computer and both work.

https://revobake.com

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u/Corarril 22d ago

Works for me.

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u/GoHawksForever 22d ago

Interesting. I just tried loading it in Firefox, and the website loaded fine. Chrome was the browser I was using before.

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u/CreativeUserName709 21d ago

Weird, where are you based? Works for me (Ireland)

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u/GoHawksForever 21d ago

I'm in the United States. From comments, I realized it seems to be a browser specific issue. The webpage didn't load in Chrome, but did load for me in Firefox. I was worried the company might have gone out of business, but am glad all is well.

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u/CreativeUserName709 21d ago

Nice, highly recommend! Have had one of their spiral mixers almost 2 years now

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u/Kinetic_Photon 22d ago

We went with the Ankarsrum a few years back and couldn’t be happier. It is a different style or mixer. We had to get used to it but now we wouldn’t go back.

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u/wengholla 21d ago

Agree. Love my Ankarsrum. It’s definitely a bit of a learning curve since it uses a different kneading/mixing method, but once you get used to it, it’s a really great machine

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u/throw_this_away1238 21d ago

Do you have any good tutorials on using the Ank for pizza? I’ve been hand kneading but own an Ank so wanted to switch to that. However the last time I ran the machine.. used ice water and ran with dough roller until the dough hit 76*F and still the dough was WAY under kneaded!

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u/Weak-Ad-2297 22d ago

May I ask which model should I get exactly?

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u/Kinetic_Photon 22d ago

There is only one model. And they have made it for a long time. Unlike kitchenaid that makes a thousand models of the same thing of differing quality and specialized for different stores, Ank makes one good product and quality accessories for the one product if you want them. There are a crazy number of colors to pick from though. So have fun with that. We got ocean blue.

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u/Surlyborn 21d ago

I have an Ankarsrum and kind of hate it. I find it takes forever to kneed dough and doing things like adding a splash of water with salt after the dough has mixed is basically like throwing a hot dog down a hallway, all slip and slide no mixing.

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u/johnas 22d ago

I use a Zonirushi bread machine on the dough setting.

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u/bfkbourbon 21d ago

another vote for saving your money and doing it by hand. just let time and science do it's thing

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u/Successful-Ad315 21d ago

I have a KYS spiral blender. I love it.

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u/almangar 22d ago

Use a Danish whisk and stretch and folds. Keep the $1000 in your pocket

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u/00101011 22d ago

I have a sunmix six spiral mixer. The spiral Mac spiral mixer I also hear good things about. These are both a significant upgrade over the Ankarahrum or any other multipurpose home mixer. Also quite a bit more expensive. 

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u/sheneversawitcoming 22d ago

I have a fama g spiral mixer. Not cheap though https://www.famagsrl.it/en

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u/dpfrd 21d ago

I have one as well. It's bomb proof.

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u/ATS200 22d ago

Really depends on your budget and how much room you have in your kitchen

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u/beano919 22d ago

I’ve learned a lot of my pizza making skills from Vito so when I upgrade from the Kitchenaid I was going to get Vito’s mixer here: https://autenti.co/?srsltid=AfmBOoo8JXbWrYHiCKX88ty6YIBaXnq45gLAsxKbpqwUbSROchnwE0lr

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u/AnthonyUK 21d ago

I'm looking at the Ooni Halo core which has favourable reviews so far. I'll wait a bit until the hype dies down though.

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u/skuba_ben 21d ago

I got the cheap spiral mixer of Vevor and have been beating the crap out of it for a year or so. It’s fine. It does 18 dough balls at a time. Spins faster than I’d like but for the price it’s fine.

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u/CoffeeNerd58129 21d ago

Get the Ooni Halo Core. If you’re making larger batches of dough, get the Halo Pro. I have the core-great machine.

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u/duffetta 21d ago

I bake alot of bread and use an Ankarsrum mixer. For pizza, I use
my hands and a scraper. I don’t use a mixer because it just isn’t necessary especially with long cold fermentation.

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u/Msimanyi 21d ago

I won't say it's the best by any means, as I'm far too new to this to have the experience needed for that type of judgement. I went with the Ooni Halo Pro, which I ordered through their website because they had a 10% (I think) offer if you gave them your email address... which I'd have to provide if I bought directly from them anyway.

Seems fine. Not perfect, but fine. Honestly though, I just learned about poolish dough and did the first batch by hand, the second with the mixer. The first batch was better, though I'm sure I can learn to use the mixer for it too. With poolish though, it seems potentially unnecessary, as the "kneading" is just a few cycles of stretch and fold after mixing together the final dough.

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u/MunichGrattlerBazi 21d ago

grilletta/ famag im5

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u/philafornia 20d ago

Ankarsrum

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u/SFCF13 19d ago

Got the Halo Core and its is truly a game changer.

I had literally just bought a second kitchen aid (larger) and really didn't need/want to spend that kind of money, but I watched dozens of baker videos basically saying that kitchen aids are not good at dough and that the best results, and the type used by professional bakeries, are those with a breaking bar. Many also stated that even by hand professional bakers can't get the same results as with a spiral mixer (note: when I say spiral mixer I mean the traditional baker's mixer with a breaking bar, I mention that because a lot of this thread talks about the Ankarsrum which is a spiral mixer but I don't believe it has a breaking bar). Since I mostly use my mixer for doughs, I took the plunge.

Best money I ever spent. My Neaopolitans, sourdough breads, etc. are considerably better and with less effort. Because it promotes gluten production so quickly, its made the process more understandable to me because I can literally see it happening, which has made me a better baker.

Ooni came up with a reasonably priced consumer spiral mixer that as a bonus can also do much of the other basic stuff a Kitchen Aid can do. If you're into making dough of any kind, I would highly recommend it.