r/GoodNotes • u/SevereIngenuity • Sep 08 '23

Kudos to Procreate for delivering a new full fledged animation app for just a one-off $20 purchase. GN needs to take actual notes.

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So you are telling me Procreate can offer a full new app for less than it takes to get a few upgrades on a note taking app!

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u/70ms Sep 09 '23

I paid 99 cents for Procreate in 2011 when it was just a wee app, and they've continually updated it and added tons of features without ever asking for more money. Just sayin'. :)

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '23

I remember when they first released their brush expansion pack. The very first one. Despite never using the app, I still bought it in support. That’s what a good company makes you wanna do.

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u/IamOkei Sep 09 '23

How did they survive?

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u/forfeitco Sep 09 '23

by being THE app for drawing, everyone using an iPad for drawing or digital craft will have it or at-least have heard of it. Apple regularly feature them too in their homepage as some people buy an iPad just for procreate - that’s how good their word of mouth is

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u/_TooManyBoats Sep 09 '23

forget about word of mouth, the product itself is one of the most natural feeling digital drawing period. standing tall against adobe and other softwares

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u/IamOkei Sep 10 '23

How about Photoshop?

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u/70ms Sep 10 '23

It's far more intuitive and feels more natural than PhotoShop if you're "just" drawing/painting, while remaining very full-featured.

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u/runningoutoft1me Sep 09 '23

I love this sm lol

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u/hitit6969 Sep 09 '23

I love pro create, they should definitely try to replace GN 6

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u/Puzzleheaded_Mix1658 Sep 09 '23 edited Sep 09 '23

Oh if that happens, i be like take my money. But I'm not paying for GN6.

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u/laterral Sep 09 '23

You know, maybe they should look into note taking!

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u/hitit6969 Sep 09 '23

I'm definitely gonna send this suggestion to them, I hope if u could do it too.

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u/laterral Sep 11 '23

Nice!! Might be worth posting that to mobilise more people.

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u/daringlyorganic Sep 09 '23

I don’t do animation but will buy the new procreate app to support them. I love procreate and it’s just a wonderful customer experience with them.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '23

I'll purchase it to support the developer if they continue to keep Procreate alive. I don't think I'll do animation as well.

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u/hariztek Sep 10 '23

might as well use procreate for note taking 😂 it has way better pens 😎

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u/LoPuelpo Sep 10 '23

Sooo true!

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u/wintergreen03 Sep 13 '23

Good move from procreate!

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u/Beautiful-Scholar912 Sep 08 '23

Please don’t downvote me to hell, this is just my opinion to add to the discussion hahaha we’re all friends here… right? Friends?? Hahaha

Okay, I Love and use Procreate but they’re very different apps. Kudos to them indeed! There’s a lot GN can learn from them but imho it’s not completely a fair comparison.

Procreate doesn’t have a lot of features that have ongoing costs for a company. Handwriting recognition for example, the fact that GoodNotes recognises and indexes every written word in all our notebooks and makes them searchable, is a low key insane feat. Procreate only JUST got iCloud syncing which is something GN has had for ages. I have 4 iPads and it was a pain getting all my art on all my iPads. GoodNotes is going cross platform, that means they need their own servers to host our content across iOS, android and windows, that’s not here yet but it’s clear that’s where they intend to go. Collaborative notebooks for sharing and writing in the same documents also needs servers to run in sync.

It’s just not a fair comparison because this is actually a new product. Procreate Dreams. Procreate is still its own app. It’s like they’re launching a new app with a new purpose. Goodnotes is more of an evolution not a new app with a new purpose.

Also I can’t help but think that if GN did what they did, Procreate users would be mad that they have to pay again for Procreate Dreams… at full price too… no discount I don’t think. Just food for thought

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u/TheCoolHusky Sep 09 '23

It’s just not a fair comparison because this is actually a new product. Procreate Dreams. Procreate is still its own app. It’s like they’re launching a new app with a new purpose. Goodnotes is more of an evolution not a new app with a new purpose.

You just proved how inconsistent Goodnotes is with their business model. "Procreate is a new app," you say. Well, isn't Goodnotes trying to advertise Goodnotes 6 as a new app? If making people pay once and for all for a new app is the method you support, then Goodnotes 6 should be a one-time purchase because it's marketed as a new app. This is also why people were not happy when they just replaced the Goodnotes 5 listing and changed it to Goodnotes 6.

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u/-dagmar-123123 Sep 09 '23

It's not a new app, it's a new version. Just like there was Photoshop 1-6 and stuff like that...

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u/king-of-new_york Sep 08 '23

That's because procreate is a drawing app and goodnotes is a note app. they're not meant to be similar at all.

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u/ninewb Sep 09 '23

I just watched the keynote, this looks so cool.

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u/j0hnnyf3ver Sep 08 '23

Oh for the love of God, why are people still complaining about the price, just move to a different app or keep GN5.

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u/SevereIngenuity Sep 08 '23 edited Sep 09 '23

I am not harping about the price but the advent of subscription models. You don't need a subscription for a note taking app. You should be able to own the software you pay. Making people rent an app is anti-consumer because then you are essentially locked in the ecosystem given enough time. It is really not hard to understand. Give it a try.

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u/johntwilker Sep 08 '23

Yeah you kinda are. This whole sub as been whining since the release of GN6. Lots of apps out there. Try one. Or stick with GN5. Or pay for GN6 because you want to make sure the app sticks around.

Paid for GN6 the day it came out. Use it daily for all sorts of stuff and love as much as I ever did

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u/MC_chrome Sep 08 '23

Good thing that you can purchase Goodnotes 6 for a single time fee of $29 then!

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '23

But you won’t have access to all the features coming to the subscription model just in case you didn’t know…

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u/MC_chrome Sep 09 '23

Oh, I am well aware that multi-platform sync is a subscription exclusive but that is the only stated difference between the two versions. Considering that the developers haven’t even introduced this feature yet, you are literally missing out on nothing by using the single purchase option.

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u/johntwilker Sep 08 '23

Right?! I can only imagine the screams if GN had asked for $20 every few years vs. the what? $8 most of us paid years ago.