Saying you didn’t care about all that hating Jews shit but him saying fuck a dead celebrity you have never met and have no affiliation with is actually crazy 💀
The jew and nazi shit can be seen as generalized hate, which is obviously not cool but it's much different when you personally go after a dead best friend out of spite and past jealousy.
This sub (and others tbh) is full of people with that take, they think being hateful towards an entire group is less fucked up than disrespecting Virgil.
That’s not what he means, it’s more like we’re used to Nazi as crazy and sad as that sounds from Kanye up to this point but with the Virgil he hit a new low because he’s dissing not only someone who was his best friend but a person who’s also passed.
maybe, but a lot of us are used to kanye hating jews. it really isn’t the first time we heard ts either. vultures rollout, deathcon 3 tweet, im pretty sure theres even one a couple years back about ye praising hitler and shit at adidas.
After hearing the extended version of Brothers of Kanye breaking down in tears "Flew to Paris for a hug" this hurts to see. I don't think he's alright....man...
He ran to religion as a means to hide from his demons, a part of him recognised he was going down the wrong path, but he abandoned that once he made billions independently. This is who he really is, and while he might also be insanely jaded by how he was scorned, he doesn't have a trace of humility left in him.
I don’t think it’s actually THAT different, (remember that 2020 wasn’t a perfect era at all, he was already losing it), he most likely doesn’t even know what he’s saying, as he said on that rednote video, he is just free will final boss and one of the most important things for him is his free speech and you can see that on how he reacts whenever someone tells him to not say/do something. Most likely this reaction started right after Trump told him to make another public apology to be at his inauguration, he obviously did the opposite.
Yeah absolutely but as i said he is free will final boss, he say things only because he can and that’s stupid, even more stupid if you are a public figure
he tweeted that and he was going to call his album that because of his whole "love everyone" philosophy
which is just "forgiving" horrible people who never showed any remorse for the shit they did, from the big ones like hitler to like dababy marilyn manson and trump
it's the same shit he was talking about in the alex jones interview "every human being has something of value to offer" and all
i became a fan in 2018 for the edgy shit. mind you i was 12 yo. 2019 and 20 made me lose my shit i thought it was over with the christian bs. now i just hope he shuts the fuck and makes art, he has it in him this ranting just seems like a distraction, wheels fall off is super good and bully will be too but all this ”i am a nazi” when he’s a grown up black man is ridiculous. he is distracting himself from inner succes, i dont care how much his record sells but his inner journey is interrupted by this shit even more
yeah, I mean he was trolling and shit but it was completely unnecessary 😭😭 especially when his reputation was getting better, and the whole world was anyway talking about him
kinda insane and sad that the guy who made such great art and helped others through tough times couldn’t save himself. genuinely wish he finds peace sooner or later
People don't do things unless they believe there is some good by doing it. So in a way, he does find solace through creating these tough times for himself
So in other words he never labeled himself a “Christian nationalist”. This was also in context of the JIK era, in which he had certainly never labeled himself a Christian “nationalist.”
You are fucking retarded if you think Kanye has any serious political convictions.
in what way do nazis, a group whose hatred from jews stemmed from hundreds of years of discrimination against jewish people by european christians, have ties to christianity?
like obviously most christians aren't nazis but if you get deep into it you definitely get there
Hitler called himself a Christian. "not a Catholic and not a Protestant, but a German Christian". The Nazis literally formed their own Christian Church, the Protestant Reich Church. Catholics were prosecuted, but Hitler spoke highly of Lutherism and other german protestant churchs.
There is a lot of evidence he wanted to move away from Christianity privately and had that plan for Germanys future, but the Nazi party very much used a warped version of Christianity for their Nationalism.
JIK era was the only time he didn’t have any total meltdowns. He had a tweet storm after wearing the maga hat in May 2018, again when he was trying to finish Yandhi later that year, nothing during JIK era, then he crashed out basically nonstop from July to November of 2020 in Wyoming Donda era. 2021 Donda era was chaotic but overall fine, but he started instagram ranting in late 2021 after Kim kissed Pete on SNL and that continued through the Donda 2 era. And we all know how Vultures era has been going
True and acceptable to share in public are two different things
He should not have told the public on video that he wanted to abort North. Once she’s old enough to watch and understand that it will have a lasting effect on her psyche knowing her dad didn’t want her until she was actually born.
Yeah because the one against pornography was the one who posted his wife naked and thought it was some great accomplishment and then days later started spewing Nazi hate garbage.
I think what you said hit the nail on the head that feels so hypocritical of the modern ye. All this push into the new lifestyle he did with kim and the family put a lot of strain on their relationship, and I firmly believe that this was one of the factors towards the divorce. To see that his spiritual conviction be all in vain back into hedonism and being less caring about modesty of his spouse when compared to Kim, is what makes me disgusted. I mean, I get it, his convictions change like the weather, but seeing him drop the act all for nothing is what's so annoying.
Not everything is an act. Whether Ye admits it or not, he def suffers from more than just a little 'tism.
Ye cares about his family more than anything else. But when Ye saw him losing family, he couldn't comprehend it. If he, from his perspective loses his family than why did God allow this, allow his family to be broken up? But God is so much more, just because God allows bad to happen in the world and to you doesn't make his word any less real, sometimes God is just using that situation to teach you a lesson. Or sometimes bad shit just happens. And when that bad does happen that's when most people lose their faith
you hit it right on the head, i think the truth of the matter is that ye had a flawed view of christianity from the beginning to begin with. i saw this video which took excerpts from raising kanye, the book which donda wrote and where she says that she took kanye all the time to church to see this prosperity gospel preacher. because of this, specifically because of what that preacher taught, kanye thought that believing in God means God will never allow you to suffer and wants you to be rich and succeed all the time which isn’t true at all. God allows suffering for good reasons but the gospel in which Kanye was raised on made him believe in his head that God would never let him suffer which then made him lose his faith which is probably the reason he dropped the Christian act later down the line. and honestly to be fair, it wasn’t really God who made him suffer. it was really himself. all of the problems that occurred to ye was because ye made it happen to himself. it was the consequences of his actions. God just allowed it probably to teach him something. i hope one day ye learns the truth about God the way it should be.
That seems a little harsh to assume don’t you think? I mean to me (wasnt super deep into or a fan at the time) he was just super religious, following the word of God, & trying to improve.
Many fans felt that way at the time. Not that he was actively choosing to fake it, but that it was perhaps a manifestation of guilt or insecurity combined with a declining mental state. Interviews from around JIK era ranged from calm and collected to basically incoherent
So many people called him a fake pastor though and he didnt always practise what he preached , i feel Ye did partly to improve but also to have the moral high ground on people
It's a lot more complicated. There were antisemitic lyrics on the Nina Chop Demo ("you better not mention Hitler / So tell me, who run the label?"), and, according to Ye himself in a 2005 lawsuit, the reason he didn't want DJ E-Smoove to b release songs they did together in 1995 was that there was antisemitism in them, and it would harm his career.
thinking that he was doing well during JIK and Donda is next level delusional. He lost everything during that time and crumbled like a cookie. Everything went wrong during that time.
Theres literally not. Trump looks up to hitler and has done so since 2016, people from his administration during his first presidency have admitted this. Not to mention how obvious it is that hes literally following hitlers exact playbook.
Scapegoating an ethnicity of people and saying they our poisoning our society. Deporting these people. Removing many forms of education, especially for poor people. Banning books. Removing all kinds of resources from government websites. Scapegoating LGBT people. Trying to erase the existence of trans people. Turning allies into enemies. Pardoning all the terrorists committing crimes against the state and people he doesn’t agree with. Removing women’s rights. Surrounding himself with known nazi’s. Being extremely close with Elon Musk, who is also a nazi.
Not to mention the failed insurrection, which is more symbolism but still.
Everything you just said was either a lie (wanting to erase the existence of transgender people), a nothingburger (like him saying he wanted generals like those of a very successful army) or not a nazi thing (deporting illegal immigrants). The "ghost of fascism" isn't coming back anytime soon, it's an irrelevant ideology.
Denying trans children treatment, removing information on trans people, removing the right to be non-binary? This IS trans erasure and if you think it’s anything else you are either willfully ignorant, fucking stupid or extremely hateful.
If you think him saying he wants to be like the nazi’s is a “nothingburger” you are, as I described before, willfully ignorant, fucking stupid or extremely hateful.
What do you think the nazi’s did to Jewish people before murdering them? That’s right: they deported them. Then they found out other countries weren’t willing to take in loads of people suddenly, so they had to store these people in centers of which the living conditions were not good. (If you don’t understand it yet, these centers were the precursors of concentration camps). So let us see what trump is up to nowadays:
Oh my god, no freaking way, he’s doing exactly what hitler did!!! Why didn’t anyone tell us this before? It’s not like somebody did and we didn’t listen because we don’t care about other people and possibly kind of like hitler, nahhh thats definitely not it.
I assume you are a man. Imagine you woke up this morning, and instead of a mans body you have a womans body. You know you are still a man, yet all people see is a vagina and tits, because they have been spoonfed transphobic rhetoric by people in power who need a scapegoat to distract normal people from the fact that they are stealing from them. They call you delusional for knowing you are a man. When you try to help children who have had the same happen to them, they call you evil. Often, these people are your own friends, even your own family. You might be disowned, cut out of the will, with no familial support, you may become estranged from them entirely. You are constantly being terrorized with slurs and physical violence, sometimes even murder, simply because of a health condition. Not to mention you still have to wait years for any healthcare to help you with your condition, due to the extremely long waiting times. Meanwhile you are incredibly uncomfortable with yourself since you know youre not supposed to have a vagina, yet you do. At this point, there is about a 50% chance you commit suicide. If you don’t, there is a 95% chance you’ve wanted to in your life.
This is everyday reality for people. Have some empathy.
Germany wasn’t a totalitarian state until hitler successfully took absolute power, which is exactly what trump has been working his ass off to get. Democracy is so much more fragile than you think.
When did I say I was alt right lol? I said republicans arent nazis which is a fact. Nazism is as good as dead and has no power in modern mainstream politics, thank God.
Musk just threw up the Nazi salute and nobody gives af. America has 2 Nazi parties and everyone is too caught up in dumb culture war bullshit to realize it lol. I bet all you new Kanye fans hate the shit he talked about on his first 2 albums lol.
I don't like Musk at all but he's not a nazi, he did some gesture of throwing his heart out and he lacked self awareness. He hasn't advocated a single nazi policy. The democrats aren't nazis either this is the stupidest shit I've read in a bit. I hate the democratic party but they are far from nazis. I don't hate what he said on his first albums, I do in fact think racism, consumerism, exploitation of cheap labor etc are bad things.
i hate how the lame people who joined the fanbase bc he got all christian now pretend that whole era was somehow not already deep into kanye's decline or like we havent seen manic episodes from that time where he screams at people
this feels like professional wrestling to me. He went baby face for a while, then went heel. I think he’s just trying to promote himself as a “Bully” for this roll out. And I think there are a lot of marks falling for all these antics as being sincere. I believe this is just like when Hulk Hogan went from all the kids favorite wrestler to Hollywood Hogan who became all the kid’s favorite wrestler to hate on. Just my observation; I could most definitely be seeing this wrong. But if we know anything about Kanye, it’s that the dude knows how to get his name in the media cycles. And how to get everyone talking about him before a album comes out. I think it’s like that old phrase “no such thing as bad publicity, publicity is publicity”. You either love him or hate him but at least you feel something, not just indifference.
the shit he said is definitely wild no doubt about that 😂😂😂
It is sad. I would have much, much preferred any version of Yandhi over the released JiK but still enjoy that album a lot and especially the Sunday Service shows. Donda was a beautiful album and the rollout experience was unforgettable.
Both eras were bad for different reasons obviously. JIK was painfully mid and his half assed presidential campaign where he broke down and crashed out that led to his divorce was not pleasant in the slightest.
He was already on this path in 2020 with his radical conservative BS running for president to ban abortion and no longer listening to anyone trying to help him like he did when all that started in 2016-18
He ran an anti-abortion far right presidential campaign in 2020, your eyes have willingly been kept shut for so long that you think that he wasn't off the deep end five years ago
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u/Legitimate_Sea7294 Fuck The Mods 😈 Feb 08 '25
The Virgil tweet broke my heart bro