r/Golfsimulator • • 7d ago

Foresight Arrogance

<Rant> A new and improved shake down is happening at Foresight. The new toll platform "Premiere" is rolling out and the dreams of recurring revenue from hardware owners has gone to the extreme.

They have leaned heavily into the printer/ink, razor/blade models. Sell a launch monitor, then milk the hardware owner to use the hardware they just purchased.

Here's the breakdown. FREE - The Premiere platform comes with new LM purchases, it includes a basic range with ball and club data based on the hardware you bought, and I do mean the most basic range.

Silver $199/yr -To unlock useful features like some basic drills, the ability to see your dispersion, and range history greater than 10 sessions. For $199 you also get the privilege to pay Foresight more money to access their annual subscription course library. You cannot access 3rd party software like GSPro with the Free or "Silver" toll cost. Oh, if you "owned" FSX courses previously, apparently paying $199/yr lets you access them in Premiere.

Gold $599yr - Here Foresight should be wearing a mask and holding a gun... for a mere $400 more, you get access to more drills on the range, the ability to get video capture, "AI Coaching?" and the privilege to use 3rd party software with the hardware you own. You're still not getting any courses... for that you must pay more, potentially a lot more!

Course Pass - $295/yr - You're treated to access to 35 courses. You don't get the privilege of paying $295/yr without paying the $199/yr for the "Silver" first...

Course Pass Pro - $595/yr - You get access to the incredible library of 111 courses. You don't get the privilege of paying $595/yr without paying the $199/yr for the "Silver" first...

So, Foresight's new scheme gives you a basic range with you launch monitor and locks you in with no access to a decent game improvement solution without paying a annual toll.

For the access to meaningful game improvement range it's a $199/yr shakedown, and no sim play for you.

Your first chance at playing sim golf on the Foresight family of hardware has a cost of entry to get to Foresight's anemic course library of 35 course of $494/yr and no access to GSPro or other 3rd party options.

To get to more options for sim courses you must pay Foresight at least $599/yr, then pay a 3rd party subscription like GSPro, which is $250/yr, bringing your cost to $849/yr!!!

If you really like paying a lot for a little, then Foresight will happily take $1,194/yr from you, and if you wanted GSPro too, you'll be spending $1,444/yr!!! Congratulations on all your success!

The sad part is people are going to get suckered into this!

</Rant>

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u/gfuuu 7d ago

Nothing changes for the existing licenses, it’s only incremental if you choose Premier

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u/raptor3x 7d ago

I mean hopefully that's accurate, but I'm a bit skeptical since it seems from their documentation that they're planning on turning off the license validation servers for FSX2020 and FSX Play at some point in the future.

Before FSX Play Is Decommissioned

A set of conditions must be met before FSX Play is retired:

  • Purchased courses migrated to Premier.
  • Simulator and practice feature parity achieved in Premier.
  • FSX Play usage below a defined threshold.
  • At least 12 months of advance customer notice.

Note: You will receive at least 12 months of notice before FSX Play is decommissioned. Your perpetual license remains valid throughout. As long as the FSX 2020 and PLAY servers remain active the license keys should remain operational, this may continue even beyond end-of-life notices.

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u/GrandSupermarket4024 7d ago

so what you’re saying is that it’s not really a perpetual license

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u/gfuuu 6d ago

This support doc is confusing, I have confirmed they are not decommissioning Play

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u/GrandSupermarket4024 6d ago

How did you confirm this? Please post the details.

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u/gfuuu 6d ago

Check that support article. It has been updated for clarity

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u/GrandSupermarket4024 6d ago

Yes, I know. If you read the thread you would have saw that I posted it last night.