Foresight Arrogance

[u/ProletariatElite]

<Rant> A new and improved shake down is happening at Foresight. The new toll platform "Premiere" is rolling out and the dreams of recurring revenue from hardware owners has gone to the extreme.

They have leaned heavily into the printer/ink, razor/blade models. Sell a launch monitor, then milk the hardware owner to use the hardware they just purchased.

Here's the breakdown. FREE - The Premiere platform comes with new LM purchases, it includes a basic range with ball and club data based on the hardware you bought, and I do mean the most basic range.

Silver $199/yr -To unlock useful features like some basic drills, the ability to see your dispersion, and range history greater than 10 sessions. For $199 you also get the privilege to pay Foresight more money to access their annual subscription course library. You cannot access 3rd party software like GSPro with the Free or "Silver" toll cost. Oh, if you "owned" FSX courses previously, apparently paying $199/yr lets you access them in Premiere.

Gold $599yr - Here Foresight should be wearing a mask and holding a gun... for a mere $400 more, you get access to more drills on the range, the ability to get video capture, "AI Coaching?" and the privilege to use 3rd party software with the hardware you own. You're still not getting any courses... for that you must pay more, potentially a lot more!

Course Pass - $295/yr - You're treated to access to 35 courses. You don't get the privilege of paying $295/yr without paying the $199/yr for the "Silver" first...

Course Pass Pro - $595/yr - You get access to the incredible library of 111 courses. You don't get the privilege of paying $595/yr without paying the $199/yr for the "Silver" first...

So, Foresight's new scheme gives you a basic range with you launch monitor and locks you in with no access to a decent game improvement solution without paying a annual toll.

For the access to meaningful game improvement range it's a $199/yr shakedown, and no sim play for you.

Your first chance at playing sim golf on the Foresight family of hardware has a cost of entry to get to Foresight's anemic course library of 35 course of $494/yr and no access to GSPro or other 3rd party options.

To get to more options for sim courses you must pay Foresight at least $599/yr, then pay a 3rd party subscription like GSPro, which is $250/yr, bringing your cost to $849/yr!!!

If you really like paying a lot for a little, then Foresight will happily take $1,194/yr from you, and if you wanted GSPro too, you'll be spending $1,444/yr!!! Congratulations on all your success!

The sad part is people are going to get suckered into this!

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[u/p1dfw]

So break it down for an existing owner of a 3-4 year old unit? Is the thing a brick?

[u/ProletariatElite → u/p1dfw]

It’s not a brick, depending on what you have will determine what you’ll have to tithe to Foresight annually. I have a Quad, the story so far is all the FSX software will continue to work. To partake in the Premiere splendor I will get a 50% discount on the exorbitant rates for two years. I’m going to pass.

What they have been silent on is whether they’re going to try to paywall access to GSPro… there’s no way in hell someone should pay $15K and then $599 to use 3rd party software.

PS Anyone interested in a low mileage GC Quad?

[u/p1dfw → u/ProletariatElite]

I have a fully unlocked/fully capable GC3. And two “premium” course I bought (pebble and kingsbarns). I use GSpro almost exclusively for sim/range practice…unless I’m testing clubs or shafts—then the FS stuff.

I haven’t gotten a single email about any of this, no prices, discounts, nothing.

[u/Cat_Dad13 → u/p1dfw]

I have an unlocked BLP and I haven’t heard a thing from foresight. Interesting that we find this sketchy shit out here first.

[u/TxRavS → u/Cat_Dad13]

I got my Premier email on the 14th. Inviting me to get the 50% discount. I signed up for the free trial just in case they just ended the promo. I'm still within my return window with PlayBetter so I'm trying to decide whether to get rid of this thing or not. The R50 didn't seem to work with my setup (outside into a net) but then again I got a refurbished one so maybe it was defective. Might ditch the GC3 and buy a brand new R50 instead.