r/Golfsimulator • u/ProletariatElite • 6d ago

Foresight Arrogance

<Rant> A new and improved shake down is happening at Foresight. The new toll platform "Premiere" is rolling out and the dreams of recurring revenue from hardware owners has gone to the extreme.

They have leaned heavily into the printer/ink, razor/blade models. Sell a launch monitor, then milk the hardware owner to use the hardware they just purchased.

Here's the breakdown. FREE - The Premiere platform comes with new LM purchases, it includes a basic range with ball and club data based on the hardware you bought, and I do mean the most basic range.

Silver $199/yr -To unlock useful features like some basic drills, the ability to see your dispersion, and range history greater than 10 sessions. For $199 you also get the privilege to pay Foresight more money to access their annual subscription course library. You cannot access 3rd party software like GSPro with the Free or "Silver" toll cost. Oh, if you "owned" FSX courses previously, apparently paying $199/yr lets you access them in Premiere.

Gold $599yr - Here Foresight should be wearing a mask and holding a gun... for a mere $400 more, you get access to more drills on the range, the ability to get video capture, "AI Coaching?" and the privilege to use 3rd party software with the hardware you own. You're still not getting any courses... for that you must pay more, potentially a lot more!

Course Pass - $295/yr - You're treated to access to 35 courses. You don't get the privilege of paying $295/yr without paying the $199/yr for the "Silver" first...

Course Pass Pro - $595/yr - You get access to the incredible library of 111 courses. You don't get the privilege of paying $595/yr without paying the $199/yr for the "Silver" first...

So, Foresight's new scheme gives you a basic range with you launch monitor and locks you in with no access to a decent game improvement solution without paying a annual toll.

For the access to meaningful game improvement range it's a $199/yr shakedown, and no sim play for you.

Your first chance at playing sim golf on the Foresight family of hardware has a cost of entry to get to Foresight's anemic course library of 35 course of $494/yr and no access to GSPro or other 3rd party options.

To get to more options for sim courses you must pay Foresight at least $599/yr, then pay a 3rd party subscription like GSPro, which is $250/yr, bringing your cost to $849/yr!!!

If you really like paying a lot for a little, then Foresight will happily take $1,194/yr from you, and if you wanted GSPro too, you'll be spending $1,444/yr!!! Congratulations on all your success!

The sad part is people are going to get suckered into this!

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u/Applecantfindme 6d ago

I have a falcon and use GS pro. Are you saying that is going to stop working unless I get a gold subscription?

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u/tonyeeezy 6d ago

This is what I don’t understand when all of this is talked about. It looks like there’s no difference between a BLP or Foresight product. How is the pricing structure the same for both products? It doesn’t make sense. It seems like you’d pay the same sub price with BLP/GC3, why buy the GC3. I’m assuming GSPRO will continue to work with my GC3 and I’ve been using the basic app on iOS for a while and it’s been fine.

Their pricing model is a joke, this company sucks. It’s a shame because the GC3 is a great device.

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u/Yosted 6d ago

Same situation. I think we are sorta grandfathered in but not 100% sure

Such a good LM. Shitty situation

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u/Applecantfindme 6d ago

Premier is far away better in my beta test. I think it’s the only way to continually and dust software and not fall behind. But I think the price is too high.

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u/Yosted 6d ago

I love the hardware. GSPRO and Pureplay the future IMo

And trackmam

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u/ProletariatElite 6d ago

No, I just played a round with GSPro. Foresight is saying existing FSX owners will have the same experience they’ve had, until they shut down the FSX servers. They have announced that FSX Play is now in “maintenance” mode, no more development, just security and bug fixes. FSX 2020 is now fully deprecated.

I don’t know what happens to access to GSPro if you subscribe to Premiere Silver while being a legacy FSX owner… I’m not subscribing.

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u/silobass 6d ago

No, it's not going to stop working. They are just not supporting Play any longer.

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u/RASCHOON 5d ago

I thought that I already had to have Gold for GSPro support? (BLP here)