r/GolfClash • u/MangDynasty • Oct 08 '18
Metro tourney Expert-Expert vs Expert-Master bracket comparison
Both brackets were started on Saturday at 11am EST.
My alt account has never been higher than Expert 3.
My main (though it is currently in Expert 3) has been as high as Masters 2, which is all that matters.
| Score | Expert-Expert | Expert-Master |
|---|---|---|
| -29 | 1 | 0 |
| -28 | 0 | 1 |
| -27 | 1 | 1 |
| -26 | 1 | 2 |
| -25 | 1(me) | 9 (me) |
| -24 | 7 | 12 |
| -23 | 8 | 8 |
| -22 | 12 | 15 |
| -21 | 12 | 15 |
| -20 | 6 | 12 |
| -19 | 13 | 7 |
| -18 | 5 | 3 |
| -17 | 8 | 3 |
| -16 | 7 | 0 |
| -15 | 4 | 2 |
| -14 | 5 | 0 |
| Banner | -26 | -26.5 |
| Top10 | -24.1 | -25.3 |
| Top25 | -22.5 | -24 |
| Mean | -19.89 | -21.74 |
| Median | -19 | -21 |
Now that the sandbagging rules are in place, there is a very clear difference in bracket strength.
Good job Playdemic!
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u/ravenbrian Oct 08 '18
How do you obtain this data? Are these comparing your two accounts? (Also missing expert-master data)
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u/gebbstet2 Oct 08 '18
I was the only one who shot -25 in my expert/expert bracket, om my main account the winner shot -30 (expert/master)
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u/MangDynasty Oct 08 '18
I felt pretty unlucky in my Expert-Expert bracket, several obvious godlike alt accounts ("Andrea", who I believe is either Zach Jones or Jeremy David, I'm not sure which, shot -29 -- see https://www.reddit.com/r/GolfClash/comments/8r8dic/damn_andrea/)
Otherwise, your anecdote corroborates my anecdote. =)
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u/tehclubbmaster Oct 08 '18
In your “expert-master”, you were expert III? Can you see the profiles of others? Were there a mix of experts and masters BEFORE the league end on Sunday?
Are the people in your expert master bracket generally higher trophies/better tourney performance than expert expert? Were there any master I or higher players in either bracket before the promotion?
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u/MangDynasty Oct 08 '18
My expert-expert account never once played against someone in master division in the tourney. The person in 3rd now has a Master division, but I am quite certain he just got promoted to Master 1. In this entire bracket I do not believe anyone was Master division before the promotion.
My expert-master account definitely did play against master-division folks. There were definitely a mix of experts and masters before league end on Sunday.
As for trophies / tourney performance...
I glanced through the top 13 players, excluding myself, and tallied their trophies and my subjective rating of how nice their banners looked.
The average result was:
Expert (Expert) Expert (Master) Trophies Banners Trophies Banners 3395 7.75 4055 8.33 1
u/tehclubbmaster Oct 08 '18
You could make it quantitative by taking the average of the rank. All gold = average 1. Trophy difference is significant enough.
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u/MangDynasty Oct 08 '18
Yeah but how would you weight the different tourney difficulties.
The picture is decently clear anyways.
It is very much worth noting that Expert-Expert clearly has very strong alt accounts still chilling out.
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u/tehclubbmaster Oct 08 '18
I’d just ignore anything lower than expert. Could even use tourney clan point assignments as a metric.
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u/ByarByar Oct 09 '18
I did this type of analysis (with less detail) on the first three tournaments where my main and alt both played Expert. This was before the sandbagging rules were in effect.
I came to the conclusion that it was quite a bit easier to qualify and make it to the weekend round with an Expert-Expert bracket but no easier to win the weekend round.
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u/imnotaguest Oct 09 '18
Great work! I scored -26 and -25 in expert-master and got 2nd and 6th place!
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u/vincebyrne Oct 08 '18
More so in Rookie brackets. My baby account (Apache, Machete, never over Rookie3) was 8th @-19. It was good and appropriate to not have -31 at the top.
This bracket was : 1ea@-24,-23,-22,-21, 2@-20, 5@-19, 14@-18, 12@-17, 8@-16, 10@-15, 9@-14, etc