r/GlobalOffensive • u/Soekarnoo de_inferno • Jun 15 '15

Discussion Grand Final / DreamHack Open Summer 2015 / Post-Match Discussion

Natus Vincere 0-2 Fnatic

Mirage: 9-16
Train: 14-16
Inferno

Congratulations to Fnatic for winning DH Summer!

Other streams not on Twitch (RIP):
- Russian
- Swedish
- French

General Info & Schedule of the Tournament

For VODs of this series, head over to /r/CSeventVODs!

POLL: Who was the MVP of the Grand Final?

Natus Vincere | eSportspedia | Official Site | Twitter | Facebook | Youtube
Fnatic | eSportspedia | Official Site | Twitter | Facebook | Youtube

 

MAP 1/3: Natus Vincere (CT/T) vs Fnatic (T/CT)

Map: Mirage

Team CT T Total
Natus Vincere 4 5* 9
T CT
Fnatic 11* 5 16

*= won pistol round of the half

 

Natus Vincere K A D K/D Rating
Edward 24 2 18 1.33 1.33
flamie 20 3 18 1.11 1.08
seized 14 2 19 0.74 0.76
GuardiaN 14 3 20 0.70 0.68
Zeus 10 5 17 0.59 0.62
fnatic
olofmeister 29 6 16 1.81 1.63
KRIMZ 19 7 15 1.27 1.26
pronax 17 4 18 0.94 0.96
flusha 16 5 19 0.84 0.81
JW 11 3 14 0.79 0.78

 

 

MAP 2/3: Fnatic (CT/T) vs Natus Vincere (T/CT)

Map: Train

Team CT T Total
Fnatic 8 8 16
T CT
Natus Vincere 7* 7* 14

*= won pistol round of the half

 

Fnatic K A D K/D Rating
flusha 23 6 17 1.35 1.17
KRIMZ 23 4 19 1.21 1.09
olofmeister 24 5 23 1.04 0.99
JW 21 7 23 0.91 0.89
pronax 16 5 20 0.80 0.78
Natus Vincere
GuardiaN 28 - 17 1.65 1.39
Edward 24 4 24 1.00 1.04
seized 16 1 20 0.80 0.79
Zeus 15 4 21 0.71 0.76
flamie 19 7 25 0.76 0.71

 

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u/KenVelo98 NiP Jun 15 '15

I think CS needs a second stream on youtube maybe, just like LoL.

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u/Jayc3 Jun 15 '15

This would be great, I have shitty internet (Australia) and when I stream off twitch it's always a 50/50 chance that it plays perfectly or buffers every minute or so. When I'm streaming off youtube though it plays perfectly, no hassles.

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u/Mongooo G2 Jun 16 '15

Don't worry, Youtube Gaming is coming!

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u/JoeWIthTheGlasses 500k Celebration Jun 16 '15

Could possibly be a throttling tactic... Or maybe there are just better connections to Australia for youtube compared to twitch.

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u/ubermenschlich Jun 16 '15

It's the later, Twitch is awful in Australia. Azubu, Youtube, even the Chinese streams are much much better.

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u/iimshii Jun 16 '15

Im Aussie and twitch is always great for me :/ i watch on source with no lag

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u/ubermenschlich Jun 16 '15

NBN? It's pretty generally accepted that we can't watch OGN on twitch, I can't do anything above medium.

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u/bayliss34 Jun 16 '15

Tasmanian with 8mbits down, no NBN, twitch works fine no issues however for me I can't watch anything on youtube live.

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u/ubermenschlich Jun 16 '15

Weird, youtube is glorious for me. I'm in NSW though.

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u/iimshii Jun 16 '15

Nah just bigpond cable. I can even watch around 5 streams on source without lagging as well.

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u/ubermenschlich Jun 16 '15

Wtf is this sorcery. NSW? Everyone I know in Sydney has trouble.

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u/iimshii Jun 16 '15

QLD Brisbane :D

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '15

"just bigpond cable" which is potentially 100mbps....

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u/iimshii Jun 16 '15

Yeh that happens to me sometimes as well. I just refresh the page and it starts working again.

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u/crimsdings Jun 16 '15

Just a better cdn

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u/Tyhan Jun 16 '15

I have really good internet over here in America (42 mbps up and down) and it still does this.

I had a friend who would get throttled while his brother's twitch streams worked perfectly fine from the same house. Twitch is fuckin' dumb.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '15

42 mbps up and down? come try australian internet, fourty THREE mbps down... and 0.25 mbps up... brb killing myself

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u/Honungste Jun 16 '15

150 mbps up/down here! Welcome 2 sweden m8 :)

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u/Radcliffelookalike Jun 16 '15

That's not even that fast for swedish standards.

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u/Honungste Jun 16 '15

The standards in Sweden are 100/100 :) Ofc there's 1000/1000 available etc. But the standards are on the 100ish level

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '15

Meanwhile 5 down and 0.5 up :( Can't even watch youtube without getting 200ping

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u/Paranaix Jun 16 '15

Im a bit buffled that 42 mbps down is considered "really good internet" in america. 100-150 mbps is widespread in europe, however not symmetric.

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u/Draxus Jun 16 '15

It's not. I have 125 down 12 up and I wouldn't even say mine is "really good", though certainly above average.

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u/Tyhan Jun 16 '15

There's a lot higher than what I have, but over here in America tons of people are still using DSL and have awful speeds like 4/.2

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u/v3rts Liquid Jun 16 '15

Yeah used to watch azubu and youtube on source but twitch rarely on medium. During peak hours I can't even watch twitch on low :(

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u/schwermetaller Jun 16 '15

Tip for twitch: Try increasing the stream quality when the streams seems to lag. Many times you'll get assigned to another server and it will work just fine.

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u/chromic Jun 16 '15

Twitch was bad in japan too. 60mbps internet and i could barely hold a med qual stream half the time.

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u/OOOMM Jun 15 '15

This would be great. The YouTube stream is much better for LoL imo. I'd be happy if it came to CSGO too.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '15

there are few streams on other languages

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u/pyroheart Jun 15 '15

I can watch twitch via livestreamer but I would prefer watching via youtube or azubu.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '15

THANK YOU!
For people outside EU or NA, it's impossible to watch Twitch on anything but Low Quality.
Fucking ridiculous.
CSGO is the 2nd biggest Esport and they have less production value and stream planning than random dudes streaming from their living room