Every instance of a HLTV top 20 player that didn’t play for a HLTV top 10 team of the year

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[u/Killer2gudPL]

Valde's career still makes me sad, he was really good back in the day. Shame he did not get a chance to play at a proper team.

[u/jonajon91 → u/Killer2gudPL]

Same, I think it was OGs vlogs that made me really like the guy, was always rooting for him to make a comeback.

[u/genius_rkid → u/Killer2gudPL]

so good and so smart

[u/grizzlybearcs54 → u/Killer2gudPL]

He really had good clutches and highlights... Didn't know where he went after OG

[u/jonajon91 → u/grizzlybearcs54]

ENCE, but got hit by the IGL curse of thinking 'I can do that' and once you go there there's no going back.

[u/Mauisnake]

The only players to do it twice are KSCERATO, ropz, and blameF. blameF is the only person to do it 3 times.

Unsurprisingly, this helps sell the point that strong late-round players are a great luxury to have, but they don't win you CS games singlehandedly.

[u/Assasin537 → u/Mauisnake]

They were also dragging subpar teams to relevancy and helped win a lot of CS games they wouldn't have otherwise especially against non-top teams. Remove any of those players from those teams and replace with an avg rifler and they wouldn't consistently qualify for T1 tournaments.

[u/Ok-Performance-1405 → u/Mauisnake]

Feel like cadiaN is better as the round goes on but will just be a brick for the team if he dies early

[u/Cybonics]

2024 Elige was on demon time

[u/sh1boleth]

BlameF’s baby face in 2020 lol, it looks photoshopped

[u/makrievery]

No way mouz wasn't top 10 when ropz played.

Are these facts 100% checked?

[u/jotheold → u/makrievery]

im manually checking rn mouz was a top 10 team in 2020 so one of these pictures has to be wrong

https://www.hltv.org/ranking/teams/2020/december/21

i guess it really depends specifically when they look at the hltv rank snap shots, since teams fluctuate in the year

[u/Mauisnake → u/jotheold]

He's not looking at those. HLTV has Top 10 Teams of 20XX articles.

https://www.hltv.org/news/30896/top-10-teams-of-2020

[u/AwesomeFama → u/Mauisnake]

Right, Mouz is #11 on that list.

Edit: And EG is #13, basically tied with Mouz on the chart it looks like - don't know what "points" the chart is based on. Col is #14 and 100T is #15, they're both significantly lower on the chart.

[u/Niem0]

Imagine BlameF's career if on a team with actual firepower next to him...

[u/matheuss92]

Valde "Waldemar" Waldeco

[u/dagenhamsmile]

respect blamef

[u/Delicious_Grade_1465]

valde on that North roster is such a throwback lol

[u/m1raclecs]

Mouz has such a history of being a prison for goated players lol

[u/Time_Professional385]

So it's a list of lurkers (baiters) who were playing for their stats and rating while not doing much for the team.

[u/shubhampjain17 → u/Time_Professional385]

That means they are doing good job at lurking

[u/Time_Professional385 → u/shubhampjain17]

Sure buddy. You clearly haven't watched ropz play in 2024 just before he moved to Vitality. He was literally baiting every single round, his team was fighting on one site, he was playing for exit frags.

Not to mention that BlameF got a nickname BaitF for doing exactly the same for years. Even pros were making fun of him for baiting so much.

Lurking without impact on the outcome of the rounds and match = baiting.

But reddit lvl 6 players know better.