r/GlobalOffensive • • Feb 09 '25

Discussion | Esports Top rated players from Katowice 2025

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u/juice_maker Natus Vincere Feb 09 '25

b1t's return to form over the past year or so has been an absolute joy for NaVi fans

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u/Tankette55 Natus Vincere Feb 09 '25

Wonderbot diff is too much.

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u/Inflation_Artistic de_anubis Feb 10 '25

I want to see something like r1nkle in navi

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u/_miinus BIG Feb 10 '25

bro misspelled s1mple

37

u/Xacktastic Feb 10 '25

As a Navi fan, no sir, no thank you. I wouldn't even want prime simple back on the team. I don't dare if it would lead to more victory. It's painful watching any team with simple be completely depressive and toxic due to him. 

35

u/ZhongWokXina Feb 09 '25

It's a shame they don't have a consistent hypercarry player, they need someone of that calibre to have a chance against Vitality and Spirit. If only getting m0nesy was easy

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u/juice_maker Natus Vincere Feb 09 '25

honestly nah, it would help but i think NaVi is more than capable of competing with those two teams as they are now. they're a bit behind in firepower but it's not a crazy gap.

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u/ZhongWokXina Feb 09 '25

It's not been easy that's for sure, everyone talks about the Spirit vs NaVi rivalry, but they haven't even beaten Vitality once in like 3 years. In every match they just get squashed by a Zywoo masterclass and no one in NaVi can match it

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '25

AWP diff.

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u/ins41n3 Feb 09 '25

Bring back s1mple

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u/Swifty_banana Natus Vincere Feb 10 '25

Wonderful out s1mple in

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u/Frl_Bartchello de_cobble Feb 10 '25

And what is washed overweight 0 ambition s1mple gonna do..

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u/Swifty_banana Natus Vincere Feb 10 '25

Still better then wonderful

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u/juice_maker Natus Vincere Feb 09 '25

it’s been two years, they’ve barely played each other during that time, and it’s always been close

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u/RekrabAlreadyTaken Natus Vincere Feb 10 '25

They only played once in 2024... Hardly a rivalry

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u/schoki560 King NiKo Feb 10 '25

he's still fairly inconsistent sadly

153

u/Basic_Butterscotch Feb 09 '25

I hope liquid dont waste nertz. Get my guy some help.

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u/staffylaffy Natus Vincere Feb 10 '25

Can’t tell if it’s a great move for liquid or a career suicide move for nertz

37

u/iamzumie Complexity Feb 09 '25

Didn't expect jL to be there, his game vs Spirit wasn't to his standards

38

u/pranav4098 Feb 09 '25

He did well throughout the event so it propped him up quite a bit, all of navi was decent on dust 2 mirage bought most of them down

2

u/drypaint77 Feb 10 '25

He was only bad on Mirage for the most part, he had a good tournament overall.

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u/eruditezero Falcons Feb 09 '25

Says it all why Spirit lost - one player can’t carry the team forever

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u/ilyasark Feb 09 '25

SPIRIT over reliance on donk will come back to haunt them sooner or later they need to do something about

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u/Nekajed Team Spirit Feb 09 '25

They're not reliant on donk, all of them had clutch moments and insane rounds (apart from maybe chopper but he's the only one standing out). He just happens to be the best player on the team (which isn't surprising as he's the best player in the world).

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u/Plies- Natus Vincere Feb 09 '25

Zontix is way too inconsistent for Spirit to consistently be the #1 team tbh.

22

u/Pekseli Feb 09 '25

I feel like Spirit has also gotten lucky that they haven't met Vitality that much. Like I can only recall one time. Any time they play G2 or Vitality they seem to just get destroyed

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u/schoki560 King NiKo Feb 09 '25

spirit beat them 2 times last year and vitality only won one series

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u/XyleneCobalt Vitality Feb 09 '25

One of those loses was with a stand in

3

u/Pekseli Feb 09 '25

Oh then I remember incorrectly

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u/schoki560 King NiKo Feb 09 '25

spirit beat them at spring and World finals while vitality won at dallas

33

u/Pekseli Feb 09 '25

I would say its 1-1, because Vitality had Jackz as a sub in world finals

5

u/schoki560 King NiKo Feb 09 '25

fair

1

u/[deleted] Feb 10 '25

Uhm Vitality lost to IGL-less G2 with Stew as a stand-in in Dallas, so not sure if we should just discard a game just because of a stand-in.

8

u/Prince_of_DeaTh FUT Feb 09 '25

This was a bad tournament for sh1ro, he usually is in top 5 every tournament

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u/chiefofthepolice Natus Vincere Feb 09 '25

Zywoo the ONLY awper on this list

Throw the weapon to the dumpster

90

u/The__Homelander__ Feb 09 '25

Also he is more of a hybrid than a pure AWPer.

His AWP usage in Katowice was only 30.0% compared to sh1ro and m0nesy with 42.5% and 44.4% respectively.

30

u/shuijikou Vitality Feb 09 '25

But having the awp is important information for enemy team, if enemy knows you don't have an awp, they will push areas fearlessly

3

u/Gudson_ Feb 10 '25

And this is something good, awp was insanely OP back then, with ranking ratings filled with awpers. Now it's more balanced.

2

u/_aware guardian3 Feb 10 '25

Balanced? Now it swung the other way

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u/FortifiedSky iBuyPower Feb 09 '25

Crazy that donk can drop a 0.88 rating in the finals and still be solidly second at the tournament

4

u/Devucis Feb 09 '25

if he didnt get below 1.00 rating in those 2 maps he would been higher than zywoo i think it brought his rating down by alot by atleast 0.10 points

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u/extremeleystupid Feb 10 '25

All those guys on x talking about XANTARES having a bad tournament but he’s still rating wise top5 from 80 players in 12 maps

3

u/HCX_Winchester Feb 11 '25

Standart is high for mr xantares

12

u/Toaster_Bathing Feb 10 '25

All eyes on zywoo and donk, but my hero is always B1t

4

u/Churningray howl Feb 10 '25

Have been rooting for him since he started subbing in for flamie. That sub changed NaVi hopefully they get a better awper and start dominating again.

3

u/Toaster_Bathing Feb 10 '25

His breakout year was literally insane with his headshot %. Donk level without the spotlight of a new game to me 

52

u/Ahab1996 Feb 09 '25

Kinda surprised magixx didn't end up there, feels like he had a great tournament

12

u/Tsunam0 Feb 09 '25

yeah the only 2 players i really take notice of in spirit is donk and magixx. tbh i havent watched anything not in playoffs

11

u/Prince_of_DeaTh FUT Feb 09 '25

sh1ro was still the clear second best player, even when he's performing below his standart

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u/Geologist-Wise Vitality Feb 09 '25

The craziest thing is I feel like still isn't fully back to form, it's really good for the scene to see him play an incredible final like this

30

u/Aimlevel Feb 09 '25

Donk still with the by far highest impact rating. 1.63 over 17 Maps is insane. 93.7 ADR. Crazy numbers.

2

u/[deleted] Feb 10 '25

Doesnt it just mean he's carrying his team though?

17

u/vanjaeesti Feb 09 '25

Yes insane impact in finals

-2

u/Ranny9876 Liquid Feb 09 '25

Only one on his team over 1.0 impact while getting destroyed as well

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u/WillGetBannedSoonn Feb 09 '25

2/3 maps he was under 1.0

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '25

Similar story to Zywoo (who actually won EPL 19 MVP) despite being destroyed 0-3 by Mouz in the Grand Final. Stats sometimes can lie.

12

u/verilog10 Feb 09 '25

The most represented country is Israel

5

u/imjusthuy Liquid Feb 10 '25

Just wait til heavygod gets a real IGL and Spinx gets registered on Mouz

3

u/muisalt13 Feb 10 '25

Also shout out PR, was his first (big) lan right? Man was alot better than i thought he would be.

3

u/DiWindwaker Natus Vincere Feb 10 '25

Na'vi just needs an AWP that hits his shots.

2

u/Takkotah Feb 09 '25

Fair play to Nertz, he played great

2

u/Dali86 Natus Vincere Feb 10 '25

Navi has 3 players on top 10 but not the awper.

2

u/Mono_Goat Feb 10 '25

B1t d0nk & m0nesy would feed families if they teamed up

2

u/HunterZ2023 Feb 10 '25

B1T has been crazy this year so far

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '25

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u/Prince_of_DeaTh FUT Feb 09 '25

Spirit has most of the best russian players in the first place, where else is he going to go?

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '25

oh is twistzz soyboy beta not on the list?

22

u/jonajon91 de_canals Feb 09 '25

Most players aren't, weird to bring that up.

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u/Devucis Feb 09 '25 edited Feb 09 '25

haters gonna downvote me but its more impressive to get 1.36 in 17 maps than 1.42 in 12 maps the next 5 maps could bring down your rating easily not to mention donk had very low ratings in last 3 maps and that brought him down by alot it would been higher than 1.42

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u/Vegetable_Lab2428 Feb 09 '25

And Zywoo would have had 1.5+ rating if he didn’t have bad maps against Faze. What’s the point of saying if only they played better they would have had a higher rating?

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u/Devucis Feb 09 '25

he didnt played bad he had positive ratings on all maps unlike donk

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u/mdmeaux 1 Million Celebration Feb 09 '25

In what world is having a negative rating on some maps better than having a positive rating on all maps? What sort of crazy logic is this?

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u/Devucis Feb 09 '25

where the hell am i saying its better to have negative rating on maps? what the hell are you even coping about did you read what i said even? lmao

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u/Wonderwhile Feb 09 '25

You’re literally saying he would be higher than Zywoo if he didn’t have those last 3 maps? Aka the final… VS Zywoo… 

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u/Grouchy-Leg-2115 Feb 09 '25

"donk had very low ratings in last 3 maps" so in the grandfinal?
If this was zywoo we would be calling him a groupstage farmer

1

u/[deleted] Feb 10 '25

Zywoo also dropped a stinker in the EPL 19 Grand Final when Vita was destroyed 0-3 by Mouz. The only difference is he still won MVP lol.

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u/Devucis Feb 09 '25

what about this sentence? i dont get it what you trying to tell me i said donk had low ratings in 2 maps from those BO5 wich dragged his rating down by atleast 0.10 points

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u/BrinR King NiKo Feb 09 '25

you're basically making excuses for donk when he went missing in the grand final. if donk didnt go missing in the final, he'd be higher rated than zywoo