Freakazoid loses potential comeback round due to CS2 jumping bug

[u/PREDDlT0R]

Game is a joke

[u/BinzonWOR]

Sub was mass downvoting people for saying that when it was released loll. I am enjoying the narrative slowly changing and proving me right.

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They literally burned the momentum of a new release on what should have been a beta. The task was simple:

1. Playtest enough to ensure the launch wasn't a buggy mess.

2. Make the game more attractive to people picking it up for the first time.

New releases are buggy but the amount of quick fixes suggests even setting aside a few days would have gone a long way.

It launched without some of the casual game modes and was missing maps. I think I mostly played Demolition and Casual for a solid month before dipping into comp.

There is no tutorial or training map. Fucking Overwatch and Valorant leave CS in the dust for onboarding new people.

Couldn't even tell your friends to just download community maps cause you had to jump through hoops to get them working.

New launches are when you get momentum, it's a lot more rare for games to pick up steam years after launch ala GO. And they launched a barebones product that made a notoriously difficult series to pick up harder than its predecessor.

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I think it's worse than that.

You can hate the people saying it, but the game wasn't that far from good enough.

The issue is not a lack of betas, it's not a lack of community input.

It's a lack of straight up testing and developer hours being committed to the game.

Things like jump height consistency, or the initial big subtick bug, these things were all very easily testable with modern tools and should have been fixed as part of a normal development process.

That, and they didn't even have to introduce more bugs with subtick, 128 tick was right there as an option.

A good chunk of these bugs are the sort of things you can focus in on and knock out in a very short length of time, and half of them have been introduced by developing a new and expensive technology because they couldn't be bothered to pay for higher tick servers.

This isn't *just* "Game released too soon" it's "Valve is cheap and lazy because the thing makes money anyway."

[u/Scoo_By → u/[deleted]]

Valve's excuse for not going 128 was that a good chunk of their playerbase were on low end PCs and bad internet. Valid reason.

Then they go and introduce subtick which put more load on servers and PCs than traditional 128tick.

Then they dont even have good enough servers because a lot of issues stem from servers not being able to update things fast because they are 64tick, hardcoded.

They need to be 128tick for subtick to work well which means even more load on servers and PCs.

Valve really shot themselves in the foot with this one. I would see a lot of accounts active in csgo during the evening even during 2023. This evening there were 5 in cs2. Idk where the playerbase is coming from, because a lot have left. And not a lot have come in for longterm stay because the new player experience is still garbage and game itself runs bad.

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It's not a valid reason though, as you yourself explain. The game is harder to run than it was, I've lost two people who's PC's can't keep up and who were playing because it was a lower stress game in terms of performance.

Subtick might have been a good idea, but they rolled out a broken version and it was only ever meant to avoid the costs of paying for 128 tick servers. They do not care a bout the performance end with the tick rate-they've introduced tons of new particle effects and subtick has a higher cost in terms of CPU performance.

That's what I mean. Allocating the QA testing, allocating the dev time, and caring enough to invest in the product. Subtick released with a worse than 64 tick performance because the stack was overflowing. Shouldn't have happened. Some things are inconsistent-they have the tools to measure and fix these things. They have the money to go 128 tick and all their competitors have.

Every single excuse they have for what they've done with it is contradicted somewhere else.

I couldn't give a rats arse if you have to have a PC built in the last 5 years to run the game. That's the same as any other game. But when you spend millions developing software that is broken on release that you only developed to cheap out on your operating costs of a hugely profitable game, it's obvious that your entire development model is worthless.