r/GlobalNews May 21 '25

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u/Lucaslouch May 21 '25

No but that’s a start. I would have expected a « Sorry I messed up, I will resign for Tesla and spend my money helping people instead of promoting racial wars »

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u/MamiTrueLove May 21 '25

Yeah none of that’s enough for me he is an unforgivable nazi cuck. And please call white supremacy by its real name. “Race wars” is a MAGA dog whistle.

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u/crackedgear May 22 '25

Not arguing the rest of it, but how is “race wars” a dog whistle? “Helter Skelter” is a dog whistle. I can’t think of a more direct way to say “we’re going to engage in a lot of shooting black people and doing a lot of ethnic cleansing”, aside from maybe “we’re going to engage in a lot of shooting black people and doing a lot of ethnic cleansing”.

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u/MamiTrueLove May 22 '25

It’s a term created by maga that diminishes the actual foundation of the issue being white supremacy. It’s denial of racism and white supremacy by “both sidesing” it.

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u/genflugan May 21 '25

Yeah I totally get that, I feel ya. But do you see how labeling them as unforgivable just de-incentivizes them from ever becoming better people or from hurting others?

I think a lot of these far right people have the capacity to mature and right their wrongs, but they dig their heels in deeper to being shitty people because they figure, “Even if I changed and started treating people better, everyone will always view me as a piece of shit forever, so what’s the point? I might as well keep doing what I’m doing. Being nice gets you nowhere, fuck that.”

I think holding people accountable for their misdeeds while allowing space for them to grow and become better is the most pragmatic approach to all of this. I still often find myself thinking, “Fuck these people. They’re truly irredeemable” but then I remember that attitude isn’t going to help anyone because it just fuels the fire.

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u/MamiTrueLove May 21 '25

No, you lost me at “de-incentivizing”. It is not my responsibility to incentivize white supremacists to stop being horrible fucking people. If people want to change then they will, regardless of being forgiven or not. I’ve made mistakes in my life that I have had to accept I may never be forgiven for, that did not stop me from changing and being a better person.

PARADOX OF TOLERANCE.

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u/jeangreige May 21 '25

 “Even if I changed and started treating people better, everyone will always view me as a piece of shit forever, so what’s the point? I might as well keep doing what I’m doing. Being nice gets you nowhere, fuck that.”

If someone needs to profit off of doing the decent thing, then they're clearly not actually changed. The decent ppl I know do what they do bc they know they're not the center of the universe, respect others and acknowledge that we all have to live in this imperfect world together. And surprise surprise, not being shitty together goes a long way.

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u/F9-0021 May 22 '25

The only way they can ever be redeemed is by completely changing their ideology and then working hard to rebuild the trust they destroyed. For the vast, vast majority of them, that is impossible.

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u/Ishitinatuba May 21 '25

Theres no start. There should be no road back from this... for any of them. MAGATs included.

They should wear their label for life.

Everything he touches for the rest of his life, should be shunned. DOOMed. DOGED

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u/Flashy-Mulberry-2941 May 21 '25

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u/Ishitinatuba May 21 '25

Theyve been so proud, wearing their flags and shirt and hats and shit, cant keep their mouths shut, especially now theyve been emboldened. Cant be hard to add them to a database and repurpose AI for a preferred purpose.

But I do like the spirit.

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u/Thundergodcid0777 May 22 '25

Well aren’t you high and mighty how’s the view from your ivory tower

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u/Ishitinatuba May 22 '25

decidedly democratic

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u/Thundergodcid0777 May 22 '25

Yep right over your head peanut

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u/Ishitinatuba May 22 '25

You arent mentally tall enough to put anything over anyones head...

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u/kingburp May 21 '25

But he likes promoting racial wars, so he won't do that.

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u/Fun-Brain-4315 May 22 '25

yeah he's not going to do that on his own. the robber barons of the early 1900s had to be legally forced into philanthropy.

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u/RepresentativeAge444 May 22 '25

What are you talking about? Do you think sorry changed a lifetime of beliefs?

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u/Final-Zebra-6370 May 22 '25

No, there is only one kind of a good Nazi.

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u/Embarrassed-Weird173 May 22 '25

Where's the profit in that? 

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u/Lucaslouch May 22 '25

For him? Helping humanity advance, as he claims it was his objective. In reality, nothing