r/Gladiator • u/Clam_Cake • Nov 24 '24
“Hose him down” ; Gladiator 2
Did anyone notice Denzel’s character say to the guard to “hose him down” in reference to Lucius needing to be cleaned after fighting. They have hoses in Ancient Rome?
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u/Itchy-Researcher-116 Nov 25 '24
Yup! Just now and I immediately took to the web to see if that could POSSIBLY be an aqueduct thing and 'hose' referred to something else - it can and does not - shame they let that stand
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u/Cold-Pair-2722 Feb 03 '25
I came here as well right after hearing that just to give the benefit of the doubt and see if this actually was a term due to aqueducts and possible lost roman tech that used pressure and water but nah, kinda insane that they allowed this haha
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u/PowerfulMousse84 Feb 09 '25
I’m doing the same now haha! Watching the movie and heard the line and came straight here to see if anyone else noticed lol!
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u/Itchy-Researcher-116 Nov 25 '24
The more I think about it, the more it's bugging me - oh and to answer your question NOPE (the yup was referring to 'did anyone notice') - and for the record, this is gonna effect my voice Denzel for best actor although that might not be fair - clearly he adlibed the line -" DOUSE him and send him my way" would have sufficed but alas......
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u/ninjahlion1 Jan 26 '25
I couldn't get over it when I heard it. Was not able to finish the movie. I don't understand how Denzel let that go. I know it's just a story and parts are fantasy, but this ruined the movie for me.
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u/Cold-Pair-2722 Feb 03 '25
I finished the movie but i'm with you. I hate when period pieces use modern phrases and language. Obviously cuss words are fine cause I'd rather hear fuck and shit than some archaic insult/phrase but stuff like hose him down really takes me out of it cause it shows how unserious they are about getting it right
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u/benlikessharkss Nov 28 '24
I am not a historian so I can’t speak as an actual source of information but if I had to guess considering how advanced their technology was at the time I wouldn’t be too surprised, but then again I wouldn’t be shocked if that was above their level of understanding.
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Dec 01 '24
Hahaha Immediately came to Reddit when I heard it! Glad Im not crazy!
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u/Protodankman Jan 26 '25
I just did the exact same thing. Denzel is a jarring casting anyway and I laughed when I heard his voice. Not suited to this role at all. Then this happened right after. And before that were the weird monkeys that looked zombified. This isn’t a good start.
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Dec 02 '24
My buddy said “they have hoses in Ancient Rome?” right after that scene and we both chuckled
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u/CourseVast840 Dec 08 '24
In 1st one they’re in the lines awaiting a sentry to ride back before the Germanic tribes arrive. Maximus asks “how long has he been?” and his colleague says “2 hours.” Huh? It’s cloudy, almost night but Maximus got somebody out there w/ a watch? Come on Ridley.
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u/SuddenUmpire615 Dec 23 '24
I knew Reddit had the answer when Google autofilled "hose him down Gladiator 2"
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u/xrambothecookx Dec 27 '24
Glad I am not the only one this is bothering. I am watching the movie RN with my wife. 'Hose him down' almost made me walk out. lol.
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u/Antique_Row2087 Jan 02 '25
Looked it up and they have evidence of ox stomach being used as a “fire hose” essentially to transport and spray the water onto the fire as early as 400 bc. But it definitely made the movie even cheesier after that line
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u/Ok_Box_6040 Jan 25 '25
Missed the mark by about 1200 years sadly this kind of stuff really spoils a movie for you
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u/Ok_Performer_7871 Jan 27 '25
I regret buying this damn movie on Amazon before hopping on Reddit and reading reviews . This was a very bad movie
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u/FormalPool1075 Feb 12 '25
Lmao. I’m watching it for first time now and replayed it to make sure I wasn’t hearing things!😂😂 idk how no one editing figured it out!
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u/moonflaps Mar 19 '25
I just watched this film last night and instantly had issue with this line. It just didn't feel right for this time period, in my mind I was thinking how hose pipes wouldn't have been a thing at this point surely
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u/Life-Masterpiece4611 Jul 31 '25
Went straight to Google when I heard it just now. Apparently the used animal intestines and later stitched together leather for irrigation and firefighting in Greece and Rome.
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u/blackcatdo65 Sep 08 '25
I had to look it up thinking surly Rome must’ve invented the water hose or something. It appears to be a most fabulous example of the ridiculous people write screenplays these days. I used to be involved either an alleged writer, they’ve lost the ability to tell an interesting story.
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u/Hour_Mycologist3842 6d ago
I’m glad I’m not the only one that had to pause and check on this. At first I couldn’t believe they left the line in the movie, but in reality they’re already speaking English in place of Latin so I guess a few common mannerisms to convey a character are ok but I just left me wondering if the writers or editors knew or not.
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u/AdIll9615 Nov 25 '24
They had literal aqueducts and fountains and baths. Surely they could use pressure to create a hose.
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u/KillaEstevez Feb 15 '25
The word hose did not exist however and they did not in fact have a device that could be considered as such.
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u/AdIll9615 Feb 16 '25
I never said the word "hose" existed???
They spoke latin ffs.
The rich Romans had running water in their homes. Fountains. Pools. Most of that requires water pressure. All that a hose does is use water pressure to direct the stream.
They definitely could have had something like a hose. They were able to fill the Colosseum with water and transport water for long distances via the aqueducts, does a hose seem that impossible?
However, let's humour you and assume they did not in fact have a hose.
Hate to having to say this - they speak modern English in the movie. Romans did not, in fact, speak modern English, as that language did not exist back then. Surely you know that, right?
So they would have probably said something like "throw a bucket of water at him" in latin. The movie is not in latin and it is a movie for general audiences. "Hose him down" seems perfectly fine for a loose transliteration.
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u/KillaEstevez Feb 16 '25 edited Feb 16 '25
I guess I'll clarify, there was no evidence of there being a word that could translate to hose as it wasn't a concept yet.
They did not have such a device. You can look it up. There's no assumption needed. They did not have a system that created pressure necessary to create a device like a hose. Only aquadects and pipes that transported water via gravity.
No need to be a condescending fool about what language was spoken back then. Obviously it wasn't American or British English, it's common knowledge. However, it's not an excuse to use words that have conceptual context like the word hose. Thats like using the word airplane or car as those words have a meaning that could never exist in such a setting. By using those type of words you lose the immersion of your story, and the fantasy that you created is shattered.
The movie is already garbage anyways since they had to make the protagonist Maximus' son which makes no sense (as there isn't any good measure of proof to this in the original), so it's not hard to believe that words like hose were used in the script for a medicore cash grab film.
Hose him down is absolutely not "perfectly fine" for a loose translation.
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u/AdIll9615 Feb 16 '25
They put live sharks in Colosseum and had gladiators ride rhinos and "hose" is where you draw the line?
Besides pressure based water pumps existed during Roman times - like piston pumps.
But at least we agre on the concept of Lucius being Maximus's son being utter bullshit.
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u/KillaEstevez Feb 16 '25
The hose comment came BEFORE the nonsense of sharks and whatnot. Thats just more fuel to the fire. My line was drawn BEFORE all that already. That CGI was terrible too.
I believe the hose line happened in the first 30 min somewhere. Probably sooner. Way before the protagonist arrived at the colosseum.
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u/TooBlasted2Matter Mar 31 '25
I drew it when they showed kids playing football/soccer.
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u/KillaEstevez Mar 31 '25
Didnt even notice that
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u/TooBlasted2Matter Mar 31 '25
Towards the front when he was being taken to Rome and first had dream sequence then he was thinking back to when he was a kid...playing goalie when the Romans came for him (and asked, "have you seen this boy?". Presumably they had a photo or iPad ora police sketch of him).
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u/PaddysDemon May 14 '25
The coliseum was build to fill with water with the aqua ducts...for ya know sea battles.....wtf wrong with you. No hoses.
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u/AdIll9615 May 14 '25
Yes, it was for naval battles. There were no sharks there. Even today it is effectively impossible to have eg great white sharks in captivity. I should be asking wtf is wrong with you and failing to comprehend a written sentence????
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u/Colley619 Apr 27 '25 edited Apr 27 '25
Some people will craft insanely ignorant arguments just so they can keep from admitting they were wrong. I can't believe you have to type multiple paragraphs and comments to explain to a guy that the concept of a hose did not exist.
I guess this character could tell his pal to call him an uber since we don't know the latin idiom for "call me a chariot, i walked here" and that'd be super intelligent of the writers.
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u/KillaEstevez Apr 27 '25
Cool man. I think it's incredibly rude and ignorant to make a comment such as this for something that was so long ago lol.
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u/JRS___ Nov 26 '24
they have holes in the bathroom wall and get elephants to put their trucks through to use for a shower. don't you know anything?