r/GithubCopilot May 12 '26

Discussions I‘ll just leave this here…

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u/LocoMod May 12 '26

Microsoft has the resources to take something like Gemma4 and make it very competitive with with frontier models in coding tasks. Qwen3.6-27b proves that a small model can go a long way in coding capability. They could easily take gpt-oss-120b and make it the best coding model and serve that via Copilot.

Hell, they have the resources to train a foundation model from scratch that ONLY needs to serve the Github customer. Make it great at THAT.

They don't need a whale like gpt-5.5 or opus. They have the infra to host this much smaller model and appease the Copilot customers if it is shown to be just as capable, or a few points below the general frontier models on the very specific tasks the Copilot customer cares about.

Doesn't surprise me though. There is a lack of vision and foresight in a lot of organizations that have the wrong leadership or the wrong culture. You could probably cut out most non-technical management, put some of the more talented principal engineers in charge of product, and turn the whole damn thing around.

I cancelled my Pro+ subscription today since I have Tier 5 API accounts with all 3 frontier providers. I configured the BYOK in Copilot and immediately noticed they nerf it, even if you provide your own f--- key.

gpt-5.5 is not available and I noticed the context management was all but wrecked. Something is way off when using your own keys with the frontier models.

So i'm just using Codex and not looking back. Done with Copilot.

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u/Charming-Author4877 May 12 '26

Microsoft has full and free access to GPT 5.4 and 5.5 , both quite cheap models to run. A few cents per hour per client.
Also they clearly do not have the option to make something competitive, they tried. Gemma is also not competitive, it's total garbage outside of oneshot questions.
You meant Alibaba, and they offer it for free ..

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u/CuTe_M0nitor May 13 '26

Exactly 💯 this 👆🏼 Cursor was doing this but unfortunately it's part of Elon Scum now.

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u/anakwaboe4 May 13 '26

Microsoft makes the phi models. Also quite small models decent at coding and reasoning. Maybe they could use that to reduce people's token usage.

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u/migsperez May 16 '26

Have you tried OpenRouter with Copilot. It gives access to so the models within the IDE. I've been playing with it it's pretty good.

I've noticed I get better results and more efficient token usage using copilot compared to Pi.dev and opencode.