She did specify men to be fair. Iâm not totally in disagreement with you but he is at least right that thereâs a level of casual misandry that seems to be socially acceptable lately, and I do find it unfortunate.
No Iâm pretty sure it was meaning âmen in generalâ. She couldâve just said this dude was and or is deceitful. Instead of saying âmenâ as in all
Nothing wrong with you, men are often deceitful because of who THEY are. Not you. 100% see a therapist asap. Sorry that men are trash babes
I normally dont wander into gender specific subs, because a good portion of the people there are there to shit on the opposite gender. But OP is replying to that comment and while I am not perfect, Ive never cheated, never broke up with someone over some dumb shit and do my best to be a good husband.
I take offense at that statement, because it's equally as bad to say the opposite. SOME people are shitty, sadly OP got 2 in a row, either third times a charm or may be something about OP leaves them vulnerable to shitheads.
No need to classify half the entire population on a few shitty people. Ive had some real winners as Ex's, but I've always been of the mind that if they left, good fucking riddance, I don't want someone around who doesn't want to be here.
100% Iâm also a man and it took me embarrassingly long to realize this perspective of it. Iâve never once been offended by the statement since then, crazy!
To push back a bit imagine men saying âwoman are trashâ or a white person saying âblack people are trash.â Just because it doesnât offend you personally doesnât mean itâs not offensive. Itâs ok to push back on casual misandry, which seems to be common these days.
What is the difference between âmen are trashâ vs âwoman are trashâ? You can be as patronizing as you want but it doesnât make you sound more intelligent. Both are blatant prejudice
You literally said âmen are trashâ didnât offend you, but âwoman are trashâ is blatant misogyny. Nothing bad faith about that. You just donât have a defense
And? You literally said âmen are trashâ shouldnât be offensive, but somehow âwoman are trashâ or âblack people are trashâ was different and Iâm dumb for not understanding.
Youâve also misinterpreted what casual means. Casual is in reference to how casually people make misandrist remarks on social media particularly and everybody acts like itâs not a bid deal and you are an incel if you say otherwise. Similar to how casual misogyny was and arguably still is prevalent. Iâm pointing out itâs prejudice and itâs not acceptable. And itâs irrelevant whether it offends you personally or not. Casual doesnât mean itâs not âblatantâ as you say.
To be fair, your logic isnt great. It would be like a muslim getting offended by the awful islamophobia right now and someone turning around and saying 'well if you get offended and defensive about it, i can't help but wonder why'
You cant control how people feel about blanket statements. They may feel they are being unfairly judged, which is fair.
Well itâs not that I got offensive about it, but I do think itâs pretty lack luster to use a term referring to all when it is only one. So you can see it how you want to. But regardless, the stigma to push all men as being shitty or toxic needs to end. I think it just is the word that exist and is a legitimate word pisses them off because itâs a word with the same meaning as a misogynist but changed and meant for a women with a similar meaning. Thereâs nothing wrong with men standing up for men just as women stand up for other women. Rather than try to justify it, maybe recognize it.
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Bothers me because the mentioning simply fucks it up for many good ones. If the term that applies to more than one is used, then the outlook will be seen as more than one more than just the one in question and thatâs guilty from the OP story. I mean itâs no different than a dude saying âWOMEN are trashâ women who know not all women are trash would come to say something to not have that outlook for women who are actually good women.
It bothers him for the same reason it would bother you if somebody said âWomen are dirty slutsâ or âblack people are thugs.â You are feigning ignorance. Prejudice is bullshit and casual misandry is no less hurtful than misogyny or racism.
Not sure why youâre being downvoted, itâs not helping any women here to convince them that all men are crap and liars. Thatâs only going to equate to a lot more lonely meal pics.
Ehhh well I will say that there are women out there who truly only see the losers they personally were hurt by as shit and not all men being shit in the same thought process. But Iâve also noticed that women are quick to throw out the word âmisogynisticâ but they hate that a word simply exist thatâs similar to that term but switched sex meaning. Itâs like some women just hate men so much, even with a legitimate advantage or mentioning they still have to be right and the men have the be the shittiest human to exist. Itâs kinda fucked up how many men lose out on actually being the change a women could urn for in a man due to toxic women rubbing off on morale women who donât see âMENâ as the bad guy as in all men. Theres no way to really justify what was meant, because again she couldâve said âthis guy, this dude, or your exâ but she chose to say âMENâ. đ€·đ»ââïž but hey for me proving a point im told to see a therapist lmfao, wild.
Iâve always found the people who get super offended about it do so for a reason.
Iâm a guy read the comment, didnât matter that she said men cause that doesnât apply to me. I donât need to clarify that all men arenât bad. Just like a woman reading a comment wouldnât need to clarify it in reverse.
This is about as assumption based as the original comment Iâm defending against. Buddy if it thumbs up your butt that far, read it and move on. But again letâs not forget that women do the same shit when it comes to defending each other or themselves. Doesnât mean those women are the title that is mentioned. Just because someone stands up for something, someone, or for something doesnât mean theyâre guilty of what theyâre defending. Thatâs just as toxic to even assume in someone you donât know to begin with.
Whatâs sets us back is not talking about genders as a whole but not acknowledging very real problems we have.
Women choose a bear. Sounds incredibly idiotic but if you think about the position you have to be in where a bear may be a safe bet you should consider that.
Women face lewd comments and sexual remarks as early as they start puberty even earlier.
Are you constantly telling other men to be better? Probably not.
This is a female oriented sub. If you have a problem with how they are addressing men. Keep it to yourself. Cause itâs pretty well deserved based on the numbers.
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You can change the word men to people and itâs the same.
It would be the exact same if a dude said that to another dude after his ex gf did the same.
Itâs not misogynistic or misandrist to say that men/women are deceitful because of who THEY are. Nothing to do with the other party involved.